7 minutes ago, futurecoach said:

I am interested to see the offense they run too with Watson. Watson always seemed to be better off in the spread. Which Mayfield also most likely would be better off in a spread offense too. However, they didn’t allow Mayfield to do that really. Will they change to fit Watson skill set, since they didn’t really change to fit Mayfields? Or will they make Watson have to change to fit their offense? 

I think the Browns have to work to Deshaun's strengths.  

With that said, I am really concerned about having to play the Browns twice this year, the Battle of Ohio is going to be on like Donkey Kong. 

On 3/19/2022 at 9:19 AM, MJAlltheWay24 said:

From what I read, his base salary is only $1 million, so if he is suspended, it comes from that base.

 

On 3/19/2022 at 9:33 AM, DragonFire said:

Which is a super slick way of sidestepping that.  Does anyone know if the NFL has a maximum limit on their fines? You'd have to think if they suspend him that they will levy a hefty fine as well - especially since they know that's what Watson and his agent were playing at here.  But that was a very savvy move.

Could that low year one salary backfire on Watson and the Browns?  I could see the NFL looking at that, especially if there is a cap on how much they can fine him, and say ... OK, instead of suspending you 5 games we're going to suspend you 10.

Dee Haslem, co-owner of the Browns, is a member of the Player Conduct Committee.  I don't know how much that will effect the number of games Watson will be suspended but I think the Browns are willing to put up with about any number this season.  They are looking at Watson as a long-term, top-tier franchise QB.  If they have to sacrifice this season to achieve that, I think they are willing.  

A second grand jury in a separate Texas county is considering whether to indict Watson.  His attorney said it is not a new charge but is related to one of the 22 cases already heard.  A decision by the grand jury is expected by Thursday or Friday.  

43 minutes ago, oldgrappler said:

A second grand jury in a separate Texas county is considering whether to indict Watson.  His attorney said it is not a new charge but is related to one of the 22 cases already heard.  A decision by the grand jury is expected by Thursday or Friday.  

It may already be in the thread but is any of Deshaun's money guaranteed? 

5 minutes ago, theguru said:

It may already be in the thread but is any of Deshaun's money guaranteed? 

100% of it.

1 minute ago, REALSPORT said:

100% of it.

Color me shocked but then again it is the Browns, sorry @oldgrappler.

The second grand jury refused to indict Watson wo claimed at his introductory press conference in Cleveland that he is innocent of all charges.  He never assaulted or disrespected any woman.  

@theguru It is the highest guaranteed money ever--$230 million.  Aaron Rogers is second at $150.8 million.  There is no mystery as to why Watson chose Cleveland over the other 3 teams even though he said they were out of the running.  ?

@oldgrapplerwondering what your thoughts are after hearing/seeing some of the leaked depositions from Watson?

Some interesting key points that stood out to me, were...

- Didn't tell the Texans he was getting "massage therapy"

- Didn't even know if one/some of the girls was even licensed/credentialed as a massage therapist

- Took his own towel with him

- Pleaded the 5th, when asked why he posted on Instagram that he was in NYC, when he was actually getting a massage in Houston

 

Another point that the author of the article I read said, that I didn't actually hear in the excerpts that I listened to, was that Watson "met" a lot of these women on social media.

 

Man, I realize it may be hard to prove certain things in a he-said/she-said environment...but, man, this stinks to high heaven, in my opinion.  At the very least, it's poor, poor, poor off-field decision making.

 

6 minutes ago, CincySportsFan said:

@oldgrapplerwondering what your thoughts are after hearing/seeing some of the leaked depositions from Watson?

Some interesting key points that stood out to me, were...

- Didn't tell the Texans he was getting "massage therapy"

- Didn't even know if one/some of the girls was even licensed/credentialed as a massage therapist

- Took his own towel with him

- Pleaded the 5th, when asked why he posted on Instagram that he was in NYC, when he was actually getting a massage in Houston

 

Another point that the author of the article I read said, that I didn't actually hear in the excerpts that I listened to, was that Watson "met" a lot of these women on social media.

 

Man, I realize it may be hard to prove certain things in a he-said/she-said environment...but, man, this stinks to high heaven, in my opinion.  At the very least, it's poor, poor, poor off-field decision making.

 

Sounds like like Watson was looking for something among women that were also looking for something...

Just now, theguru said:

Sounds like like Watson was looking for something among women that were also looking for something...

That was my take away too. 

It doesn't mean that sexual harassment couldn't have happened, but it puts the argument from the women in a different light for me too. 

Still not good off the field behavior, but a lot different than being a sexual predator.  

On 3/31/2022 at 11:50 AM, CincySportsFan said:

@oldgrapplerwondering what your thoughts are after hearing/seeing some of the leaked depositions from Watson?

Some interesting key points that stood out to me, were...

- Didn't tell the Texans he was getting "massage therapy"

- Didn't even know if one/some of the girls was even licensed/credentialed as a massage therapist

- Took his own towel with him

- Pleaded the 5th, when asked why he posted on Instagram that he was in NYC, when he was actually getting a massage in Houston

 

Another point that the author of the article I read said, that I didn't actually hear in the excerpts that I listened to, was that Watson "met" a lot of these women on social media.

 

Man, I realize it may be hard to prove certain things in a he-said/she-said environment...but, man, this stinks to high heaven, in my opinion.  At the very least, it's poor, poor, poor off-field decision making.

 

I've been out of town all week and away from all media.  This is the first I heard about it.  I did a quick search and found only abbreviated discussions of it.  I read an article on SI.com about an anonymous report from a masseuse who is not among the 22 accusers.  Key word there is anonymous, but if true, very troubling.  

All of it is really seedy and disgusting.  

No way he plays this season, right?  

4 minutes ago, PurplePride92 said:

No way he plays this season, right?  

What is the latest, I thought I saw a report where the hits keep on coming.

Just now, theguru said:

What is the latest, I thought I saw a report where the hits keep on coming.

Two more accusers added to the number of 22 making it 24 now.  The NY Times article claiming that the Texans enabled his behavior.  Some of the accusers stories are cringe inducing.  66 different massage therapists in a 17 month period.  
 

The longer this goes on I don’t see how he plays this season. Tremendous distraction.  
 

His contract is insane.  The Browns……..lol.