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53 minutes ago, theguru said:

Why are they doing away with it?

The article, as one would expect with the NFL, does not give a concrete answer.  Just states, 

"The decision to eliminate the Wonderlic test comes as the NFL looks to improve the general experience for NFL draft prospects at the combine."

Another article states,

"In a memo obtained by the AP that was sent to clubs on Wednesday, the league said a team would forfeit a draft pick between the first and fourth round and be fined a minimum of $150,000 if it’s determined a club representative displayed conduct that is “disrespectful, inappropriate, or unprofessional” during an interview. Fines and/or suspensions of individual club employees also could be imposed, according to the memo."

https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/01/05/nfl-teams-lose-draft-pick-combine-interview-violations

So if the 2 are related, it would appear to be a part of their push in the social justice arena.

 

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14 hours ago, theguru said:

Why are they doing away with it?

Probably because it has very little bearing on how good someone can actually be. 

 

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8 minutes ago, TheDeuce said:

Probably because it has very little bearing on how good someone can actually be. 

 

I have no idea how you would track it but I'd love to see the data associated with scores on this vs success in the NFL. 

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1 minute ago, ChickenWyngz said:

I have no idea how you would track it but I'd love to see the data associated with scores on this vs success in the NFL. 

Top 20 scores ever...

  1. Pat McInally, punter – 50/50
  2. Mike Mamula, defensive lineman – 49/50
  3. Ryan Fitzpatrick, quarterback – 48/50
  4. Greg McElroy, quarterback – 48/50
  5. Ben Watson, tight end – 48/50
  6. Kevin Curtis, wide receiver – 48/50
  7. Blaine Gabbert, quarterback – 42/50
  8. Carson Wentz, quarterback – 40/50
  9. Alex Smith, quarterback – 40/50
  10. Sean Mannion, quarterback – 40/50
  11. Eli Manning, quarterback – 39/50
  12. Matthew Stafford, quarterback – 38/50
  13. Kevin Hogan, quarterback – 38/50
  14. Andrew Luck, quarterback – 37/50
  15. Aaron Rodgers, quarterback – 35/50
  16. Luke Kuechly, middle linebacker
  17. Kirk Cousins, quarterback – 33/50
  18. Tom Brady, quarterback – 33/50
  19. Ezekiel Elliot, running back – 32/50
  20. Matt Ryan, quarterback – 32/50.
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44 minutes ago, TheDeuce said:

Probably because it has very little bearing on how good someone can actually be. 

 

I will agree with "very little" but with an investment of this magnitude I will take every little bit I can.

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37 minutes ago, ChickenWyngz said:

Top 20 scores ever...

  1. Pat McInally, punter – 50/50
  2. Mike Mamula, defensive lineman – 49/50
  3. Ryan Fitzpatrick, quarterback – 48/50
  4. Greg McElroy, quarterback – 48/50
  5. Ben Watson, tight end – 48/50
  6. Kevin Curtis, wide receiver – 48/50
  7. Blaine Gabbert, quarterback – 42/50
  8. Carson Wentz, quarterback – 40/50
  9. Alex Smith, quarterback – 40/50
  10. Sean Mannion, quarterback – 40/50
  11. Eli Manning, quarterback – 39/50
  12. Matthew Stafford, quarterback – 38/50
  13. Kevin Hogan, quarterback – 38/50
  14. Andrew Luck, quarterback – 37/50
  15. Aaron Rodgers, quarterback – 35/50
  16. Luke Kuechly, middle linebacker
  17. Kirk Cousins, quarterback – 33/50
  18. Tom Brady, quarterback – 33/50
  19. Ezekiel Elliot, running back – 32/50
  20. Matt Ryan, quarterback – 32/50.

Seeing Greg McElroy, Blaine Gabbert and Sean Mannion in the top 10 tells you all you need to know about how it translates to play on the field.

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1 minute ago, CincySportsFan said:

Seeing Greg McElroy, Blaine Gabbert and Sean Mannion in the top 10 tells you all you need to know about how it translates to play on the field.

I would be a lot more interested in low scores and performance.  

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1 minute ago, PurplePride92 said:

I bet you’ll see some Hall of Famers.  Lol.  

No doubt.

I am not as interested in individuals as I am in a statistical analysis of draft position, wonderlic score, and career statistics including time in the league. 

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4 hours ago, theguru said:

I would be a lot more interested in low scores and performance.  

Lowest Wonderlic scores in NFL history

6 — Vince Young (quarterback)

Coming off a National Championship at Texas, expectations were high for Young coming into the league, though some were concerned about his low Wonderlic score. Still, the Titans gambled on him by taking him third overall in the 2006 NFL Draft. The gamble didn't pay off, though. In six seasons, Young threw 46 touchdowns and 51 interceptions.

6 — Frank Gore (running back)

Gore's poor Wonderic score might have had a negative impact on his draft stock, as he was selected 65th overall in the third round by the 49ers in 2005. It doesn't look like it ever affected his productivity, though; he's accumulated 15,347 yards and 79 touchdowns in 15 seasons. He currently stands third in all-time rushing yards in NFL history, just 290 yards behind Walter Payton.

6 — Oscar Davenport (quarterback)

Davenport was projected to be a late-round prospect with developmental upside in 1999. Then the North Carolina QB scored a 6 on his Wonderlic test and went undrafted, never making it onto an NFL roster.

5 — Ed Prather (safety) 

Another player who never played a down in the NFL, "Pig" Prather had a bad reputation for blowing coverages, and to NFL GMs, his poor Wonderlic scores seemed to reflect poor decision-making skills on the field as he went undrafted in 2001.

4 — Darren Davis (running back)

Davis rushed for 3,763 yards in four seasons at Iowa State. Then he scored a 4 on the Wonderlic exam at the 2000 NFL Combine and went undrafted, eventually going on to play four seasons in the Canadian Football League before being cut.

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38 minutes ago, CincySportsFan said:

Lowest Wonderlic scores in NFL history

6 — Vince Young (quarterback)

Coming off a National Championship at Texas, expectations were high for Young coming into the league, though some were concerned about his low Wonderlic score. Still, the Titans gambled on him by taking him third overall in the 2006 NFL Draft. The gamble didn't pay off, though. In six seasons, Young threw 46 touchdowns and 51 interceptions.

6 — Frank Gore (running back)

Gore's poor Wonderic score might have had a negative impact on his draft stock, as he was selected 65th overall in the third round by the 49ers in 2005. It doesn't look like it ever affected his productivity, though; he's accumulated 15,347 yards and 79 touchdowns in 15 seasons. He currently stands third in all-time rushing yards in NFL history, just 290 yards behind Walter Payton.

6 — Oscar Davenport (quarterback)

Davenport was projected to be a late-round prospect with developmental upside in 1999. Then the North Carolina QB scored a 6 on his Wonderlic test and went undrafted, never making it onto an NFL roster.

5 — Ed Prather (safety) 

Another player who never played a down in the NFL, "Pig" Prather had a bad reputation for blowing coverages, and to NFL GMs, his poor Wonderlic scores seemed to reflect poor decision-making skills on the field as he went undrafted in 2001.

4 — Darren Davis (running back)

Davis rushed for 3,763 yards in four seasons at Iowa State. Then he scored a 4 on the Wonderlic exam at the 2000 NFL Combine and went undrafted, eventually going on to play four seasons in the Canadian Football League before being cut.

I'd say based on that small sample size it did serve as a decent indicator of guys to stay away from. With Frank Gore being the clear exception to the rule. Like Guru said, it's just another tool to help a team make a more informed decision.

 

After seeing both the high and low scores. Am I the only person that actually wants to take the Wonderlic test now?

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