The other quote that intrigued me in here was about any program is two years away from disaster. I have heard college coaches - i.e. Larry Coker spoke about that at a seminar a few years back (how fitting?) - talk about this and the affects losing has on a program. Interesting quotes!

 

"I am a firm, firm believer that any program is two years away from disaster and that really scares the heck out of me. Not only can winning be a habit but losing can be a real bad habit. I don't want to ever allow that to happen."

I had a similar down-time, except of course earlier exits from the playoffs. But while we didn't have pads practices during the playoff season once we were out, we were of course free to lift and many did. I must admit that I strenuously avoided running during the month of November.

 

And while lifting and conditioning and the grind of the season is tough, it's a lot easier when the goals are not only lofty but constantly being realized. It's one thing to work hard to win titles and championships when you KNOW those goals are not only possible, but by past performance and weekly testing probable; it's another when your team has never tasted those things, and anyone with eyes knows that this year isn't going to be any different.

 

 

There is for sure something to this line, and getting over that psychological barrier is difficult, but that drive and determination in the offseason is what makes for champions during the post season. Kinda the chicken and the egg thing, gotta have one to get the other. Getting your players to truly believe the work being done December through August is going to payoff is possibly one of the toughest jobs of a coaching staff.

And while lifting and conditioning and the grind of the season is tough, it's a lot easier when the goals are not only lofty but constantly being realized. It's one thing to work hard to win titles and championships when you KNOW those goals are not only possible, but by past performance and weekly testing probable; it's another when your team has never tasted those things, and anyone with eyes knows that this year isn't going to be any different.

I agree.

...right....now add to it that MANY of these kids only get their glory as seniors....that's something right there.

And there are some that don't even get it then; but they practice, and train, and show up anyway.

 

Everybody talks about numbers. How did they got those numbers? I don't know a lot about Trinity's history; but I'm sure they didn't just build a giant school and expect it to fill up with star athletes. The kids came to Trinity because they wanted to be there, and their parents wanted them there.

 

Great players don't make a great team. In fact, I think the reverse is closer to the truth. It's not just about numbers. Some have suggested that it's blasphemous to say that attitude, desire, and coaching have anything to do with a program's success. I submit that it has everything to do with it! You can have a million kids to pick from; but unless they want to work hard, have the support of family and community and (above all) are coached well, they will not succeed.

 

A winning program is built, not from the top; but from it's foundation. Superstars come and go; but it's the multitude of average players that really matter. The secret lies in the attitude their leaders instill, and the involvement of coaches, parents, and the community.

 

Quantity means nothing without quality, commitment, and effort.

WOW! This is a tuff one to comment on! I could write a book on the history and success of Trinity Football (Maybe I will), but, I’m going to keep it simple... it’s on our helmet: Discipline, Achievement, Loyality and Pride. Coach Beatty, thanks for carring the torch... GO ROCKS!

And there are some that don't even get it then; but they practice, and train, and show up anyway.

 

Everybody talks about numbers. How did they got those numbers? I don't know a lot about Trinity's history; but I'm sure they didn't just build a giant school and expect it to fill up with star athletes. The kids came to Trinity because they wanted to be there, and their parents wanted them there.

 

Great players don't make a great team. In fact, I think the reverse is closer to the truth. It's not just about numbers. Some have suggested that it's blasphemous to say that attitude, desire, and coaching have anything to do with a program's success. I submit that it has everything to do with it! You can have a million kids to pick from; but unless they want to work hard, have the support of family and community and (above all) are coached well, they will not succeed.

 

A winning program is built, not from the top; but from it's foundation. Superstars come and go; but it's the multitude of average players that really matter. The secret lies in the attitude their leaders instill, and the involvement of coaches, parents, and the community.

 

Quantity means nothing without quality, commitment, and effort.

great post...you are dead on....our success is due to the hard work, and dedication of Trinity's forefathers, and their will to make us better everyday to now.

I agree with most of your points. Let me just add that it is not too fun to lift 6 days a week from January to August, go through indoor conditioning, play in all of the 7 on 7's, and have football commitments 6 times a week from August to December 1. Sure it's easier to go out on Fridays and play at a winning school, but it's not easy to get up at 6:00 in mid January and lift. No other school in the state does this, unless they've been to the finals 6 out of 7 years. The Trinity players have about a month and a half off a year (Early December to mid January).

 

I doubt if Trinity is the only school with that kind of work ethic. I think there is a handful of programs that have the same type of work schedule. It's not too hard to tell who they are. Also, I'm sure the players have the dead period off, RIGHT?

I doubt if Trinity is the only school with that kind of work ethic. I think there is a handful of programs that have the same type of work schedule. It's not too hard to tell who they are. Also, I'm sure the players have the dead period off, RIGHT?

1. I never questioned any other school's work ethic;

 

2. I am unaware of another school that has been to the State Finals 6 out of the past 7 years. If you can name one besides Trinity let us all know. If not, then no program has had the same schedule as Trinity;

 

3. The majority of players still lift and run during dead period. I believe the only thing "dead" about dead period is that you can't have contact with coaches or the school. Maybe it's different at other schools.

I'm not going to say much, but hard work at Trinity? I know the last four years at Male I watched more pratice than any one beside a coach and these kids worked very hard. And the quote about Trinity "fans hurt when they lose". They don't hurt much do they? Coach should have been in our car after the losses to North Hardin, John Hardin, and Trinity. Yeah Coach we hurt too. Trinity is in a class (X too) by themselves ands thats life. My $00.02

Yes, Beatty and staff have done a fine job with the program, but, I would think alot of coaches across the state would do as well given the same situation...It really boils down to #s more than anything else...When you've got 120 kids in the top 2-3 grades to choose from, I'd think there would be very few average players...I'd venture to say that there 2nd and 3rd string players could start for most programs in the state...Throw in the tradition factor and the entire metro area to choose from and you've got it in a nutshell...

 

So if you can throw any coach into the same situation then why didn't Chuck Servino (T head coach 1995-1998) have the same success as past and future coaches at T?

 

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So if you can throw any coach into the same situation then why didn't Chuck Servino (T head coach 1995-1998) have the same success as past and future coaches at T?

 

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Don't agree that any coach can be put into a great program and be successful.

Servino served much better as an assistant coach than head coach. Doesn't make him a bad coach.

1. I never questioned any other school's work ethic;

 

2. I am unaware of another school that has been to the State Finals 6 out of the past 7 years. If you can name one besides Trinity let us all know. If not, then no program has had the same schedule as Trinity;

 

3. The majority of players still lift and run during dead period. I believe the only thing "dead" about dead period is that you can't have contact with coaches or the school. Maybe it's different at other schools.

 

You called other schools work ethic in to question by inferring,

"No other school in the state does this, ..... that it is not too fun to lift 6 days a week from January to August, go through indoor conditioning, play in all of the 7 on 7's, and have football commitments 6 times a week from August to December 1. Sure it's easier to go out on Fridays and play at a winning school, but it's not easy to get up at 6:00 in mid January and lift."

 

Trust me CR, there are at least three other schools, right here in Jefferson Co., who match Trinity's preparation program in every way you mentioned above step for step. No they have NOT "been to the State Finals 6 out of the past 7 years" like Trinity, but, 2 of the 3 have been close and 1 of them has been to the championship game 3 of the last 4 years.

 

Good sportsmanship is supposed to occur on the winning side as well as the losing side.

 

Discretion is the better part of valor!

 

Good Luck tonight. Bring home #17.

 

GO ROCKS!

Don't agree that any coach can be put into a great program and be successful.

Servino served much better as an assistant coach than head coach. Doesn't make him a bad coach.

 

Yes, just to clerify, I didn't mean Servino was a bad coach, but he didn't have as great as success as a head coach then past and future head coaches in general. Anyone know what he's up to these days?

 

PS Did Servino really removed the helmet decals from the helmets of 95 team towards the end of the season or was that just a rumor I heard back then?

 

Thanks!

 

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All top programs in the state are built on dedication, hard work and pride. Perhaps the greatest football run Kentucky has ever seen was Beechwood from 1991 through 1997, winning all but one (and losing it 28-27 in the finals). It is doubtful that Beechwood worked harder during that period than Highlands, Danville, CovCath or several other football powers. I am aware of at least 3 Jefferson County schools that lift year round (excluding dead period). Alabama Larry, I did not understand most T posters as saying that T's work ethic was greater than any other school's. Coach Beatty publicly divulged Trinity's formula for success in the article: "The power of togetherness and the power of team is strong. Give me the average kid that wants to work his butt off over the talented kid who doesn't want to work and I will choose that average kid every time." I think if you examine most successful programs you will find close adherence to Beatty's formula.

Trust me CR, there are at least three other schools, right here in Jefferson Co., who match Trinity's preparation program in every way you mentioned above step for step.

I agree that St. Xavier works as hard as us...Male puts out a lot of effort as well, but not as much...they have a lot of players that play other sports, they don't have as many players, so they have a bunch going both ways, Bob Redman has always been known to condition in game situations....I think these are factors showing that Male might not put in the 11 months of work that X or Trinity do.