Ever heard of a zone?

 

Nope, maybe the teams Trinity played has

How about we break down each team's strengths and weaknesses (without being a homer), then compare notes to come up w/ an educated prediction rather than saying T or Ryle will win simply because they're better and have more pride/tradition/ etc.

 

Ryle's strengths:

 

Offense: RB- Murray and Gray (enough said)- Both are speedy backs with Murray being the bigger one who can either out run you or lay the wood on anyone in their way.

 

Qb- Benke- Solid high school qb butmakes bad mistakes at times. Throws a decent ball and can roll out of the pocket, BUT advantage Trinity.

 

O-line- very big and strong and fundamentally sound. Don't make many mistakes and probably the heart and soul of the Raider O. IMO this is where the game will be made. Ryle's offense goes as far as their o line takes them.

 

Receivers- Luster, Morgan, Gray- Again all 3 are big and solid and playmakers. Luster being the biggest (6'2) imo is the key to Ryle's passing game. Get him the ball in open space and allow him to use his size and athletic ability. Same w/ Gray. Use him out of the backfieild on waggle passes and screens.

 

Now defensively...

 

D-line- Solid up front w/ Pridgett (sp?) and very physical at times. All have a knack for getting to the ball.

 

LB- Murray, Lasita- Murray IMO is one of the best in the state. Gets to the ball every time and will lay you out. Lasita is solid but IMO not above average.

 

Secondary- Gray, Morgan, Aquaviva- Gray is a solid safety and can come up to stop the run. Morgan and Aquaviva are both a little undersized (5'8, 5'9) but both are athletic enough to make up for that. Can play lock down cover defense or just flat out lay a hit on you.

 

Weaknesses-

Offense- passing game. Ryle hasn't had to pass much this year because they're normally up big so it will be interesting to see how they react to MAYBE having to play from behind and pass the ball b/c that's not what their offense is built for.

 

Defense- Not too sure about their weakness b/c IMO their defense is all around pretty solid. Can stop the run w/ no problems but also cover the pass. Only thing that worries me is their secondary and T's speed.

 

Special Teams- One of the best kickers in the state. Trinity will be starting from their own 20 more often than not. IMO this could be the game breaker. (Field position)

 

A little long, but would love to hear the same insight on Trinity and anything else that could be added for Ryle (without being a homer).

 

Good breakdown. Hope more people will do this without being a homer. I will post my breakdown soon.:thumb:

NKY Schools never get any respect in the rankings but if you want to believe them, please do...

THIS IS GOING TO BE A HUGE UPSET

Check your facts coach. Both Highlands and CovCath were ranked higher than Trinity for most of the season. The fact is that for the most part NKY 4A football is much weaker than NKY 1A and NKY 3A. Those classes get most of the respect.

Check your facts coach. Both Highlands and CovCath were ranked higher than Trinity for most of the season. The fact is that for the most part NKY 4A football is much weaker than NKY 1A and NKY 3A. Those classes get most of the respect.

I have to agree with that. Not very often you get a consistent years of AA and AAAA teams in NKY that make it far into the play offs.

Beatty has shown he is a heck of a tournament coach. I think he will have Trinity ready. On the other hand, Ryle, I'm sure, will be sky high. I am a person who respects NKY football and appreciate Ryle's capabilities, and the spirit of their fans as evidenced on the various threads. Again, I think Trinity will not overlook Ryle by any means. This is not a pre-district or jamboree game. This is for the whole ball of wax. If Ryle can prevail, my hat's off to them.......because they will have beaten a prepared and focused Shamrock squad. This is not a "trap" game for Trinity. Let the better team win.

 

Now, this is an excellent post. I agree with you 100%. I have never seen a Trinity team that was not well prepared and focused. Ryle will be well prepared and focused, too, and both teams have talented players and an excellent team concept. Maybe it's good we don't have to wait until Friday. As to one other posters comments, 2006 Ryle is 5-6 TD's better than the 2004 squad. Rock folks would have to assess whether their 2006 team is better than the 2004 model. I have not seen Trinity play this year and only know they are always good.

Where is Schmitz around 400-500 yards rushing behind Murray and Gray with plenty of TD's, and the leading tackler on defense. Dustin Huth? He's a big part of the blocking on the O-line at TE, and has been used alot more in the passing game in the playoffs and is coming up big. He also plays defense, and is one of the hardest hitters on the D coming off the end. He is tall 6'3 and he is athletic at around 220.

 

Ryle has a O-lineman in Tymenski (sp?) he isn't a tall lineman but he dominates his opponents everytime, and he is BIG. I'm sure Trinity knows about him after watching tape.

 

IMO Gray is all you can ask for in a High School defensive back. If he plays football in college it's going to be at DB I'm sure. He has quick hips, and feet, good hands, and just has a knack for making a play on the ball anytime it's thrown his way. He is one of the best tacklers the team has too, and at DB that's real key.

 

Just had to throw that in to your observations I've seen them play 9 times this year.

 

Thanks :thumb: I totally forgot about Schmitz and Huth. Thats why I asked for other Ryle fans to post their thoughts and elaborate on what I posted. :thumb:

(LB- Murray, Lasita- Murray IMO is one of the best in the state. Gets to the ball every time and will lay you out. Lasita is solid but IMO not above average)

 

fbstud06 - don't know how many times you have seen Ryle play but Lasita is not the LB - Murray and Schmitz are the linebackers and they make a great duo!

 

Sorry RR34...Lasita is usually in a 2 point stance and plays like a walked up backer which is why I was kind of confused. But thanks for clearing it up :thumb:

Question:

 

When is the last time that Trinity has lost a game to an unbalanced, predominately running football team? This is why I do not like Ryle's chances. Trinity's weakness (and I am digging pretty deep to find one) this year is against the pass. I felt last year's Trinity team was stronger against the pass and weaker against the run. I feel a team must spread the field and throw the ball around to have a chance.

 

Obviously, since they are in the finals, Ryle's quarterback has done a nice job this year, but he is not the passer that I think is needed to win the 4A championship versus Trinity.

Question:

 

When is the last time that Trinity has lost a game to an unbalanced, predominately running football team? This is why I do not like Ryle's chances. Trinity's weakness (and I am digging pretty deep to find one) this year is against the pass. I felt last year's Trinity team was stronger against the pass and weaker against the run. I feel a team must spread the field and throw the ball around to have a chance.

 

Obviously, since they are in the finals, Ryle's quarterback has done a nice job this year, but he is not the passer that I think is needed to win the 4A championship versus Trinity.

 

To be honest, I'm not sure one can speak of how balanced Ryle's offense is. They haven't passed this year because they haven't needed to. They take care of business and get a lead early so they can wear the opponents down. If Ryle gets ahead early, I like their chances. If not...well I guess we'll have to wait and find out what they're made of.

Question:

 

When is the last time that Trinity has lost a game to an unbalanced, predominately running football team? This is why I do not like Ryle's chances. Trinity's weakness (and I am digging pretty deep to find one) this year is against the pass. I felt last year's Trinity team was stronger against the pass and weaker against the run. I feel a team must spread the field and throw the ball around to have a chance.

 

Obviously, since they are in the finals, Ryle's quarterback has done a nice job this year, but he is not the passer that I think is needed to win the 4A championship versus Trinity.

 

 

Benke is a very good QB, both running and passing, and getting better each week. He has been on target a lot the past 5 weeks. Only two picks all year and probably 15 TD passes.

Benke is a very good QB, both running and passing, and getting better each week. He has been on target a lot the past 5 weeks. Only two picks all year and probably 15 TD passes.

 

:thumb: Scary part about it is he missed the beginning of the season with a broken jaw...imagine where he'd be had he been running the offense all year

Question:

 

When is the last time that Trinity has lost a game to an unbalanced, predominately running football team?

233 posts into the thread we finaly get to one of the ultimate questions. Well done strongopenyon!

 

I believe the answer would be seven years ago, 1999, to Bryant Station (Shelton and the Haskins brothers).

 

Trinity doesn't lose often to one dimensional teams.

Ever heard of a zone?

Best of luck to your secondary. Many schools have tried to zone this year...unsuccesfully, I might add. Maybe Ryle will be different???

To be honest, I'm not sure one can speak of how balanced Ryle's offense is. They haven't passed this year because they haven't needed to.

Come on. They haven't had the need to pass in 14 games this year?:confused:

 

Me thinks they may need to on Thursday.

Best of luck to your secondary. Many schools have tried to zone this year...unsuccesfully, I might add. Maybe Ryle will be different???

 

If I'm not mistaken, Ryle doesn't zone often. I believe they play man coverage and double the threat (obviously depending on who they're playing it could be different)