Shot clock would also help kids transition better to the collegiate game just saying. I'm sure dribbling the basketball around for mins. at a time really helps them get prepared to play at the tempo and pace required at the next level. But, what do I know? Oh wait, I lived it and understand the transition period between playing in a slow down high school pace to an up tempo college pace.

 

I just don’t see many kids at all good enough to play at the college level. Folks would be amazed at the kids that were the best player for their HS team that never make it out of the junior varsity level at an NAIA school. Every time I went to one of my kid’s games I had a “that’s where he is now” moment with kids who were All Region in high school. There is so much talent in college basketball at all levels.

Like baseball games where despite being 35+ players on both teams, maybe 50 people show up to watch. Or tennis matches where there aren't enough spectators to have a 3 on 3 pickup basketball game. Outside of football and basketball, most high school sports have pretty poor attendance.

 

I definitely see your point. Ticket revenue generated from the “popular sports” help keep the overall athletic fund afloat at most schools.

Like baseball games where despite being 35+ players on both teams, maybe 50 people show up to watch. Or tennis matches where there aren't enough spectators to have a 3 on 3 pickup basketball game. Outside of football and basketball, most high school sports have pretty poor attendance.

 

And truth be told these last couple of years attendance has been horrible for football and basketball games that I have attended.

I’m done commenting on the obvious “let’s keep the shot clock out of HS crowd”. To each their own. The banter has been fun.

Good question. Not sure. I do know recruiters love exploring JUCO options more than HS kids especially at the NAIA level. I'm sure there is a correlation somewhere. A lot of our kids aren't prepared to play at the pace required at the next level coming out of HS.

 

95% of kids aren't even going to play at the next level. Changing the game for 5 out of every 100 kids who will play in collge, is putting the cart before the horse. The talent level overall at the high school level is not high enough to implement a shot clock. A shot clock will only put the less skilled teams further behind, and create even uglier basketball. Stall ball isn't fun to watch, but neither is watching poor shooting teams shoot more bad shots.

A serious question, because I don't know the answer.

 

Of the (purely a guess here) 3,000 kids on high-school rosters (and that doesn't count the girls), how many are going to play college basketball at any level? And how many more would play college basketball with the implementation of a shot clock?

 

If a kid isn’t playing AAU then his chances of playing in college shrink dramatically. The shot clock won’t change that. The best path to playing college basketball is playing for an AAU team that will play in front of college coaches. Very rarely will you see a kid not playing AAU getting interest from colleges. If that kid is getting interest then his HS coach is going above and beyond.

 

Now, that being said, a shot clock will help those going to play in college prepare for the next level but if 14 of your 15 players aren’t going to play in college then how is it helping?

The clock doesn’t have to be 30 secs like college! Let’s just keep teams from holding the ball mins at a time during one possession. Compromise! LOL

The clock doesn’t have to be 30 secs like college! Let’s just keep teams from holding the ball mins at a time during one possession. Compromise! LOL

 

I’m okay with 45 seconds or even one minute but I still haven’t heard an argument to convince me it is needed. Truthfully, let’s just keep teams from hold the ball minutes at a time during one possession is the only argument necessary and the only one that I somewhat agree with. I feel like I can defeat the rest of the arguments for a shot clock easily. :lol2:

Good question. Not sure. I do know recruiters love exploring JUCO options more than HS kids especially at the NAIA level. I'm sure there is a correlation somewhere. A lot of our kids aren't prepared to play at the pace required at the next level coming out of HS.

 

So only 8 states and DC prepare kids to play at the next level?

So only 8 states and DC prepare kids to play at the next level?

 

I was really tired of quoting on this topic. I didn’t say that. I know a lot of prep schools and JUCOs do. They happen to use a shot clock.

So only 8 states and DC prepare kids to play at the next level?

 

And obviously there are other factors that prepare kids for next level other than a shot clock.

One thing no shot clock does is make teams value each possession more. That's why OT games are low possession games, not because someone is trying to stall. They just value that possession more than if they knew they were getting the ball right back with a shot clock.

I want a shot clock purely to stop 4 corners type of stalling. For that, a 40 or 45 second shot clock should work.

 

What am I missing here, I attended well over a hundred high school games this season. I might have watched a total of five minutes of so called stall ball, it's part of the game the same as a run out. Leave the high school game alone, if you have to have a shot clock pay the big bucks and watch the next level.

If we want more scoring how about this.... When a team is on defense, one of their players has to run and stand out of bounds, not participating in defense. Then we would always have 5 on 4. Should help scoring.

 

Obviously I am kidding. Just going for a smile.

I’m okay with 45 seconds or even one minute but I still haven’t heard an argument to convince me it is needed. Truthfully, let’s just keep teams from hold the ball minutes at a time during one possession is the only argument necessary and the only one that I somewhat agree with. I feel like I can defeat the rest of the arguments for a shot clock easily. :lol2:

 

And this is where I am. I only want a shot clock long enough to stop a total stall.