May 21, 20188 yr Sounds like you are referring to school-based PD. I have some of those at the end of this year and some at the beginning of next. In addition to that, there are off-site AP and PLC trainings and district curriculum committee workshops that I attend. Every teacher I know either does this, teaches summer school or is taking masters classes. You didn't answer the question that I asked in my previous post. Some of the difference I guess is teaching elementary vs High School. Shes already got her rank 1 now that she is English as second language certified too, so no more classes unless she wants a new certification. I assume you chose to teach AP and the extra stuff correct? or was that required as part of your employment? I think she is at school till 4pm or so, and they dismiss students at 330pm, if that answers your question.
May 21, 20188 yr That sounds like a good schedule. I heard somewhere that the original reason that kids were off all summer was because they were needed to work family farms in the summer. That doesn’t seem to be the case anymore. They are now needed to work summer jobs around the state. That is one reason why legislators tried to push schools to start later than they do.
May 21, 20188 yr They are now needed to work summer jobs around the state. That is one reason why legislators tried to push schools to start later than they do. The main reason legislators wanted to push it back was to extend the summer tourism industry a few more weeks in August instead of everything dying a week into the month. When school starts back there is a noticeable drop around here (Lake Cumberland) weekend traffic.
May 21, 20188 yr Did anyone say that it was unique to teaching? However, it isn't done to "get ahead in our careers." It's simply what is required to do a good job as a teacher. That hasn't changed in my 22 years of being a teacher, nor is it done to advance my position. That's not how the profession works. I’m just saying extra hours happens in every job. As much as one can argue teachers don’t get the credit they deserve one can argue every teacher knows that going in...
May 21, 20188 yr As long as every sport get screwed over equally. I'm sure khsaa would go out of the way to make sure football is punished somehow by a longer break.
May 21, 20188 yr I just don't think kids need to be full time. They need an opportunity to be kids. To play and have carefree fun. Life will get tough enough soon enough.
May 21, 20188 yr I’m just saying extra hours happens in every job. As much as one can argue teachers don’t get the credit they deserve one can argue every teacher knows that going in... I don't need credit from anyone except the students I teach. I only seek to represent the actual truth of what teaching is about.
May 21, 20188 yr Some of the difference I guess is teaching elementary vs High School. Shes already got her rank 1 now that she is English as second language certified too, so no more classes unless she wants a new certification. I assume you chose to teach AP and the extra stuff correct? or was that required as part of your employment? I think she is at school till 4pm or so, and they dismiss students at 330pm, if that answers your question. I was hired to teach chemistry and physics. We offer AP Chemistry and AP Physics, so you do the math. Someone, whether it be me or not, has to teach it and to do a good job, you need to attend some summer institutes on it. Luckily, I love what I do. In 22 years, I've volunteered to do an uncountable number of things that benefit my students. That's why I am a teacher.
May 21, 20188 yr Hell no there doesn’t need to be year round school. Not only are teachers underpaid and clearly unappreciated but seeing how it is easier to regulate women’s bodies than guns we probably need to get to the end of the school year as soon as possible.
May 21, 20188 yr Hell no there doesn’t need to be year round school. Not only are teachers underpaid and clearly unappreciated but seeing how it is easier to regulate women’s bodies than guns we probably need to get to the end of the school year as soon as possible. Great point. We keep schools safe with thoughts and prayers and ask teachers to do more with less. America's attitude on education is pretty apathetic.
May 21, 20188 yr Great point. We keep schools safe with thoughts and prayers and ask teachers to do more with less. America's attitude on education is pretty apathetic. Everything is just weird to me.
May 21, 20188 yr During these conversations, we often compare ourselves to other countries and how others do things. How are Teachers paid comparatively in other countries? Any ideas?
May 21, 20188 yr How the job of a teacher compares around the world | Teacher Network | The Guardian Of the 30 OECD member countries, teachers in Switzerland get the highest annual salary, an average of $68,000 (£41,000). This is higher than the average salary in the country, which is around $50,000 (£30,000). Switzerland is followed by the Netherlands, Germany and Belgium in terms of having highly paid teachers. Comparatively, teachers in the UK earn less than the annual UK average of $44,000 (£27,000), receiving just over $40,000 (£24,000) and ranked 13 out of the 30 countries listed. Teachers get paid more in the UK than other European countries. In France, for example, the average teacher salary is $33,000, and in Greece teachers earn an average of $25,000. The article has some nice charts. For a nation that is trying to be great we are running about midpack.
May 22, 20188 yr Like @Hellcats said, we are middle of the pack in most categories. However, this does stand out to me. More teacher facts The US government spends the most on education ($809bn), followed by Japan ($160bn), Germany ($154bn), Brazil ($146bn), France ($123bn) and then the United Kingdom ($123bn) It doesn't seem like it's a matter of not having enough money as much as it seems like it's being mismanaged. Germany is around 90 million people we are 300 million people. We have 3.3 times the population and spend 5.25 times as much money spent.. Japan's population is 130 million. So we have 2.3 times the population and spend 5 times as much money. Not saying the two are totally linear, but seems somewhat out of whack. Edited May 22, 20188 yr by coldweatherfan
May 22, 20188 yr Like @Hellcats said, we are middle of the pack in most categories. However, this does stand out to me. It doesn't seem like it's a matter of not having enough money as much as it seems like it's being mismanaged. Germany is around 90 million people we are 300 million people. We have 3.3 times the population and spend 5.25 times as much money spent.. Japan's population is 130 million. So we have 2.3 times the population and spend 5 times as much money. Not saying the two are totally linear, but seems somewhat out of whack. There are probably some costs the US has that are astronomically higher: transportation and special education comes to mind.
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