What number is higher?

 

% of kids that kneel that can give a semi-intelligent reason as to why

 

OR

 

% of kids that stand that can give a semi-intelligent reason as to why?

 

I'd argue that the kids that kneel have at least given it some thought.

 

If we think kids are standing to be patriotic or for their love of country we're kidding ourselves.

 

That’s why they are in school...to be educated. Our country is not perfect, but it is the best option.

Im wondering when minors were given choices.

 

For standing for the pledge? 1943.

 

Irony right there.

Do you ever feel something is worthy of discussion for a day even if it means no science is being taught that day? I fully realize your number one goal is to teach science. Just curious if there are times/issues that warrant a day of no instruction.

Yes. Death of a student at our school.

 

9/11

 

School safety.

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Taking a class that focuses on classroom management. Clearly identified classroom procedures is key. Is Standing for the Pledge part of the classroom procedure?

IMO you can't have the pledge part of your class room procedure, at least not in a sense where every student is required to stand for it.

Sad that certain people today require reminders.

 

Agreed, but I can understand why the rest of the world doesn't see it our way.

My mom whose father was in the pacific during WWII (as her two uncles) asked my dad (whose three uncles were in WWII, losing one) why he stands at sporting events and not when you can actually hear it on the television? This was when the whole Kapernick thing started. My dad now makes a point to stand and my mom laughs at him, basically calling him a hypocrite.

 

In school we stood bc it was just part of the morning routine which also included the morning prayer (catholic school here). No protests I can remember, just the routine.

My oldest brother was part of a national flag ceremony team when he was in the service. He was taught that the people were standing because of the presence of the flag and not necessarily the anthem or in this case the Pledge of Allegiance. If you're at home you are not in the presence of the flag therefore you do not need to stand up.

The only difference is everyone stood from 09-17. Then some people stand today.

 

 

That is not true. I had students in the 70's 80's and 90' not stand for the pledge. Very few, I will say, and not every class every year. But a sprinkling, most were religious and a handful for other reasons they really couldn't explain. The latter were in most cases trying to get attention. I didn't give it to them.

My oldest brother was part of a national flag ceremony team when he was in the service. He was taught that the people were standing because of the presence of the flag and not necessarily the anthem or in this case the Pledge of Allegiance. If you're at home you are not in the presence of the flag therefore you do not need to stand up.

 

Thanks! I'll use this info to justify my earlier statement!

My oldest brother was part of a national flag ceremony team when he was in the service. He was taught that the people were standing because of the presence of the flag and not necessarily the anthem or in this case the Pledge of Allegiance. If you're at home you are not in the presence of the flag therefore you do not need to stand up.

 

Are you talking about the presentation of the flag? Because if you have to stand in the presence of the flag my class would never sit.

Are you talking about the presentation of the flag? Because if you have to stand in the presence of the flag my class would never sit.

 

Kind of both. Standing is encouraged during the live presentation of the flag. However, I have been in public crowds watching an event on TV where most people stand during the National Anthem being played on the TV. So I guess like they said in Pirates of the Caribbean, it's more a guideline than a code.

Are you talking about the presentation of the flag? Because if you have to stand in the presence of the flag my class would never sit.

 

"Presentation" means the displaying of the flag in a ceremonial fashion. Like the school's ROTC unit doing it. The flag just being there isn't the same.