February 15, 20188 yr He was a bully and a discipline problem. Calling it a mental health issue is a disservice to the thousands of people who truly are disabled. How do you know he wasnt mentally ill?
February 15, 20188 yr It should come. The AR-15 has been used in how many mass shootings now? :idunno:
February 15, 20188 yr So he can't believe in something that you disagree wit that would cause you to label him a terrorist?Just saying we know why a Radical Muslim does what he does. We don’t know this kids motive at this point, other than he’s just pure evil, which Radical Islam would qualify as also.
February 15, 20188 yr Terror is defined as "an instance or cause of intense fear or anxiety." Where you and I disagree, I think, is how much the intent (or where/why the hate is directed) affects how we label the act(s). That isn't how the US Government defines it is it? And I googled it and that was not the first definition I saw, so where did you find that? According to that definition, a car crash, or a home invasion could be considered terrorism, no?
February 15, 20188 yr Fwiw, the FBI website says this about domestic terror Domestic terrorism: Perpetrated by individuals and/or groups inspired by or associated with primarily U.S.-based movements that espouse extremist ideologies of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature.
February 15, 20188 yr How do you know he wasnt mentally ill? We don't. But we don't know for certain that he is either. It's the automatic assumption that he is that is the problem, and is so damaging to those who are mentally ill. Not all mentally ill people are violent or capable of committing these types of acts. Just like those who aren't mentally ill, aren't automatically not a threat. This labeling is one of the reasons why so many who are mentally ill, and need help, don't get it.
February 15, 20188 yr Handguns kill a lot more people every year. Agreed. The conversation is around mass shootings though.
February 15, 20188 yr Agreed. The conversation is around mass shootings though. Hand guns are used in mass shootings more often too.
February 15, 20188 yr Hand guns are used in mass shootings more often too. I know. Guns seem to be the issue at hand.
February 15, 20188 yr I know. Guns seem to be the issue at hand. Murder is the issue imo...and murder is illegal. We don't blame the truck when it's used as a weapon.
February 15, 20188 yr Mentally ill people are allowed to buy guns aren’t they? Federal Law Under 18 U.S.C. § 922(d), it is unlawful for any person to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearm or ammunition to any person knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such person “has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been committed to any mental institution.”
February 15, 20188 yr Mentally ill people are allowed to buy guns aren’t they? Im a multiple gun owner, with that said I don't believe a person who is getting treatment for behavioral problems shouldn't be able to buy a gun. I don't understand why anyone would be against that.
February 15, 20188 yr Terror is defined as "an instance or cause of intense fear or anxiety." Where you and I disagree, I think, is how much the intent (or where/why the hate is directed) affects how we label the act(s). I think your using the wrong definition here. Terror is different that terrorism. You can have night terros, be terrified of heights, etc. Per dictionary.com - Terrorism, the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes. Per that definition at this time I see no reason as to why this should be labeled as terrorism. IMO, not all violent acts are terrorism.
February 15, 20188 yr I think your using the wrong definition here. Terror is different that terrorism. You can have night terros, be terrified of heights, etc. Per dictionary.com - Terrorism, the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes. Per that definition at this time I see no reason as to why this should be labeled as terrorism. IMO, not all violent acts are terrorism. Good point. I didn't catch the terror vs terrorism point until you mentioned it.
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