The other team is shooting a free-throw. The other coach calls timeout and asks for a full-time out. I call my team over to prepare them for a press that’s probably going to be coming after the shooter makes the free-throw. The other coach decides to talk for 20 seconds on a full-time out and then sends the shooter and the rebounders to the lane. The referee tells me that I have to get away from my team and put them on the court because the team that called the timeout broke the huddle which means that I to have to break the huddle

A full time out is a full time out. The ref was wrong.

A full time out is a full time out. The ref was wrong.

 

This, I totally agree.

What level is this? You have the right to a full time out. For example let’s say the game is a blowout, either way doesn’t matter, coach calls time out just to get subs in, opposing coach can use all the time out, regardless how much “calling” coach uses.

6th grade. The bottom of the officiating barrel.

Sounds like the ref had an appointment he had to get to.

Sounds like the ref had an appointment he had to get to.

 

Was just about to say the same. Ref wanted to get the $$ as quickly as he/she could and get out of there or on to the next game and that $$.

 

Meanwhile, what is up with the middle school leagues and the referees always having some attachment to either the school that is hosting the games and/or one of the teams playing? Please don't say it's my imagination when I see the team with the connection getting most of the calls. Have been watching it for years now.

Not trying to thread jack....but this is something that has been bothering me.

 

If you are a middle school ref, you need to understand some stuff.

1. If an 8th grade player is struggling to tie his shoe, it is not your place to say, "You are 14 years old. Why can't you tie your shoe?"

2. The act of tying shoes is a fine motor skill that not all children/students master.

3. AND--There are students who are high functioning, yet on the spectrum who have no other outward signs.

4. The tying of shoes, while others are impatiently waiting, is stressful enough without a ref making comments.

5. And a coach jumping in to tie the shoes sets the child up for more embarrassment.

5. Coaches/parents can try to prepare with double knots and velcro, etc. But no guarantees.

6. Bottom line: Just be nice. Don't judge. Find a way to encourage a kid, instead of putting him/her down. Check yourself at the door. Be the adult. BE THE DIFFERENCE.

Not trying to thread jack....but this is something that has been bothering me.

 

If you are a middle school ref, you need to understand some stuff.

1. If an 8th grade player is struggling to tie his shoe, it is not your place to say, "You are 14 years old. Why can't you tie your shoe?"

2. The act of tying shoes is a fine motor skill that not all children/students master.

3. AND--There are students who are high functioning, yet on the spectrum who have no other outward signs.

4. The tying of shoes, while others are impatiently waiting, is stressful enough without a ref making comments.

5. And a coach jumping in to tie the shoes sets the child up for more embarrassment.

5. Coaches/parents can try to prepare with double knots and velcro, etc. But no guarantees.

6. Bottom line: Just be nice. Don't judge. Find a way to encourage a kid, instead of putting him/her down. Check yourself at the door. Be the adult. BE THE DIFFERENCE.

 

Lol! Be the adult, check yourself at the door. Good advice for all parents as well! If the same child is always tying his shoes throughout the game maybe someone needs to step up and help.

Not trying to thread jack....but this is something that has been bothering me.

 

If you are a middle school ref, you need to understand some stuff.

1. If an 8th grade player is struggling to tie his shoe, it is not your place to say, "You are 14 years old. Why can't you tie your shoe?"

2. The act of tying shoes is a fine motor skill that not all children/students master.

3. AND--There are students who are high functioning, yet on the spectrum who have no other outward signs.

4. The tying of shoes, while others are impatiently waiting, is stressful enough without a ref making comments.

5. And a coach jumping in to tie the shoes sets the child up for more embarrassment.

5. Coaches/parents can try to prepare with double knots and velcro, etc. But no guarantees.

6. Bottom line: Just be nice. Don't judge. Find a way to encourage a kid, instead of putting him/her down. Check yourself at the door. Be the adult. BE THE DIFFERENCE.

Sorry, but I think the Coach could handle this situation to totally eliminate any embarrassment for all. A quick substitution to let the player take care of things and re-entry next dead ball. Easy-peasy! Why put the player's shoe tying challenge on display? Your #5 solution combined with mine should cover all possibilities. Again, easy-peasy.

Sorry, but I think the Coach could handle this situation to totally eliminate any embarrassment for all. A quick substitution to let the player take care of things and re-entry next dead ball. Easy-peasy! Why put the player's shoe tying challenge on display? Your #5 solution combined with mine should cover all possibilities. Again, easy-peasy.

Read #5 again. That isn't a solution. That's adding to the problem.

Read #5 again. That isn't a solution. That's adding to the problem.

Sorry, I meant the 2nd #5 in your list, not the 1st #5.

The other team is shooting a free-throw. The other coach calls timeout and asks for a full-time out. I call my team over to prepare them for a press that’s probably going to be coming after the shooter makes the free-throw. The other coach decides to talk for 20 seconds on a full-time out and then sends the shooter and the rebounders to the lane. The referee tells me that I have to get away from my team and put them on the court because the team that called the timeout broke the huddle which means that I to have to break the huddle

 

I ran the time/scoreboard for a small college a decade ago and the rules at that time matched what this official did. If the team that called the timeout indicated their intent to end the timeout (break the huddle and return to the floor) then the 15 second warning horn was sounded and the other team was required to return to the floor.

 

With that said, I have no idea what rules a 6 grade game is under.

I ran the time/scoreboard for a small college a decade ago and the rules at that time matched what this official did. If the team that called the timeout indicated their intent to end the timeout (break the huddle and return to the floor) then the 15 second warning horn was sounded and the other team was required to return to the floor.

 

With that said, I have no idea what rules a 6 grade game is under.

 

By rule, you get the entirety of every timeout, regardless who called it, but I like this rule a lot.

I ran the time/scoreboard for a small college a decade ago and the rules at that time matched what this official did. If the team that called the timeout indicated their intent to end the timeout (break the huddle and return to the floor) then the 15 second warning horn was sounded and the other team was required to return to the floor.

 

With that said, I have no idea what rules a 6 grade game is under.

 

Herein lies the problem, not saying Rez is, people don’t know what the rules are. They think what they watch on TV is the same across the board. It is not and applies to all sports, not just basketball.