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Bracken County 89 Williamstown 87 (2OT)

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Here's Austin Crawford's first shot that was called off: Twitter

 

At the end of the 2nd OT here's what happened. A Williamstown player made a 3 to make it 89-87. The clock was at 7.2 when the shot was made. The ball rolled in the floor and a Williamstown player picked it up. He then held the ball in front of a Bracken County player out of bounds. The Bracken player did not touch it. The Williamstown player then put the ball on the ground and then Bracken player picked it up as the clock hit 0.

 

The Bracken players quickly shook hands and were hurried into the locker room. The refs deliberated.

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The Williamstown players stayed on the floor while the crowd chanted forfeit and Bracken fans yelled the game was over. The refs talked for about 5 minutes and it was then decided the game was over. The Polar Bears where escorted out the back door by a police officer.8

 

Was that part honestly necessary?

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Can you give your thoughts on post 6?

 

Game management wise I think they got it right. When the player grabbed the ball it wasn't made available of a Bracken player to inbound. He was only trying to stop the clock. So let it run.

Was that part honestly necessary?

Escorted was probably too strong of a word. He was standing by the locker room as the players went out the back door. However if the players exited through the main entrance there probably would have been some issues. Parents were arguing still

Game management wise I think they got it right. When the player grabbed the ball it wasn't made available of a Bracken player to inbound. He was only trying to stop the clock. So let it run.

 

Totally agree with this. Williamstown could not legitimately stop the clock, so don't allow them to achieve a clock stoppage this way.

Seems like most think there is a predetermined agenda by officials. I'm positive those guys didn't care who won.

 

I'm positive one coach gets to rank the officials from last night and the other one doesn't. I'm positive those three would like to do postseason games. I'm positive every questionable call went the way of Williamstown. I'm positive that crew was the worst one I've ever seen on a basketball court.

 

They may not care who wins, but they do care who they please.

Escorted was probably too strong of a word. He was standing by the locker room as the players went out the back door. However if the players exited through the main entrance there probably would have been some issues. Parents were arguing still

 

I have never seen a team exit through the main entrance there

I'm positive one coach gets to rank the officials from last night and the other one doesn't. I'm positive those three would like to do postseason games. I'm positive every questionable call went the way of Williamstown. I'm positive that crew was the worst one I've ever seen on a basketball court.

 

They may not care who wins, but they do care who they please.

 

Yeah right, give me a break

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I was referring to this comment by you. It is either a technical foul or you let it go. And do not stop the clock as you know they are interfering with the thrower's ability to inbounder the ball for the sole purpose of stopping the clock. Secondly, we don't know what the clock said when the official noticed what the player was doing at the time he looked up it could have been at or under 5 seconds and why he purposefully did not call the delay

 

I did not parse my rules. That would be you as a so called official not knowing all 4 delay of game situations

 

Since you obviously have this 100% correct and have resorted to name calling, it has become apparent that you are the smartest person to ever open a case book. You cared not to read the replies, but only wanted to view the coin from your side.

 

What we know about the clock, according to the post, is that one team scored with 7.2 seconds left on the clock and picked the ball up and did not immediately tap or throw to an official. Ignoring is the best game management, strict rule interpretation does not add value....all things I said during this thread.

 

I could only assume that you either: 1) worked this game or 2) know someone who did. I agreed with what the officials did, you brought a case study about a boundary plane violation into the mix and then began to call names.

 

You seem to have a vast knowledge of the rules and access to a case book, might I suggest that you pay for a Premium Membership and add value to everyone else who reads these, rather than ride for free and fire at will.

 

Your attitude toward everyone is telling....Have a great post - season.....:deadhorse:

Since you obviously have this 100% correct and have resorted to name calling, it has become apparent that you are the smartest person to ever open a case book. You cared not to read the replies, but only wanted to view the coin from your side.

 

What we know about the clock, according to the post, is that one team scored with 7.2 seconds left on the clock and picked the ball up and did not immediately tap or throw to an official. Ignoring is the best game management, strict rule interpretation does not add value....all things I said during this thread.

 

I could only assume that you either: 1) worked this game or 2) know someone who did. I agreed with what the officials did, you brought a case study about a boundary plane violation into the mix and then began to call names.

 

You seem to have a vast knowledge of the rules and access to a case book, might I suggest that you pay for a Premium Membership and add value to everyone else who reads these, rather than ride for free and fire at will.

 

Your attitude toward everyone is telling....Have a great post - season.....:deadhorse:

 

1 and 2 are false. 2nd why buy the cow when the milk is free? 3rd. I brought the exact case play into the equation that covers the situation. I also said it is one or the other. If there is 7.2 seconds left. The correct call is to have a technical foul. However the situation also said the basket was made at 7.2 and then it rolled around making the possibility of it being under 5 quite large.

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What we know about the clock, according to the post, is that one team scored with 7.2 seconds left on the clock and picked the ball up and did not immediately tap or throw to an official. Ignoring is the best game management, strict rule interpretation does not add value....all things I said during this thread.

 

 

Would an official have blown the play dead had the player "accidentally" nudged the ball toward center court, or any direction away from the inbounder and referee rather than holding it hostage?

 

I ask because like you mentioned earlier, I thought it was a heads up strategy and am curious whether there's a way to effectively achieve the desired results.

Always thought no matter what clock said, you have to go by the light on backboard which wasn't on in the still shot. Thought from the video shot was good,still do

 

Williamstown doesn't have a light on the backboard.

 

Just curious... How many times have you seen a lighted backboard in use at a high school gym?

Just curious... How many times have you seen a lighted backboard in use at a high school gym?

 

50/50. Need to just require it at all schools. I call shenanigans on the we don't have any money argument

Would an official have blown the play dead had the player "accidentally" nudged the ball toward center court, or any direction away from the inbounder and referee rather than holding it hostage?

 

I ask because like you mentioned earlier, I thought it was a heads up strategy and am curious whether there's a way to effectively achieve the desired results.

 

Possibly. I believe if you are aware of the game situation, and you call what you see (there is an assumption built in) then you probably should have "something".

 

It would appear that this was a strategy not well executed by W-Town. The less obvious delay would be to tap the ball away from both the inbounding player and any official....it becomes more obvious at that point.

 

It takes either a lot of discipline to not blow the whistle, or a complete lack of game situation to not blow the whistle. Hard to tell which occurred here.

I don't think there's anything wrong with getting an intentional delay of game warning. There's nothing wrong with pretending to tie your shoes so your players can set up an out of bounds play. I don't think there's anything wrong with trying to draw the opposing team into a double lane violation if the possession arrow is pointing in your direction.

 

You do what you can do in order to win the game. It's the officials job to call with they see. But I'm different sometimes

50/50. Need to just require it at all schools. I call shenanigans on the we don't have any money argument

 

I find that to be a pretty high percentage. I have no data to back it up but I would be surprised to see anything near 50%.

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