Was a bang bang play nothing more nothing less. I at first also thought it was good per the video. But the pic shows different from that angle. Some ppl want to make a mountain out of a mole hill :idunno:

 

Happens a lot on here.

Did you expect Bracken County fans to be like: "oh, the ref said it didn't county. Darn it. Maybe next time." Of course they are going to react like they did.

This looks like refs got it right. :thumb:

 

Always thought no matter what clock said, you have to go by the light on backboard which wasn't on in the still shot. Thought from the video shot was good,still do

Did you expect Bracken County fans to be like: "oh, the ref said it didn't county. Darn it. Maybe next time." Of course they are going to react like they did.

 

"Excuse me, Mr. Official. I heartily disagree with your ruling in this particular case."

 

That's how I always do it.

Williamstown doesn't have a light on the backboard.

Williamstown doesn't have a light on the backboard.

 

ok then

Always thought no matter what clock said, you have to go by the light on backboard which wasn't on in the still shot. Thought from the video shot was good,still do

There is always a slight delay between the clock and the backboard light. Officials are told to look at the ball and listen to the buzzer. Much like in baseball where they are told to look at the feet touching the base and the sound of the ball hitting the glove.

I am more interested in what happened at the end of the game. So Williamstown made a shot with 7.2 seconds left on the clock. As someone said above, the clock does not stop in high school (it does in college, though). I am not sure what the rule is as to when the 5-second count starts when the opposing team does not take affirmative steps to retrieve the ball and attempt an in-bounds pass. My sense is that it is not uncommon for a shot to be made with 7 seconds left but the 5-second count to not start until there are less than 5 seconds left on the clock, because it takes a couple seconds to retrieve the ball and start the inbounding process. I guess Williamstown did not save a time-out for this possibility. As for the Williamstown player picking the ball up after the made basket, the officials could have given a delay of game warning, but that would only be rewarding Williamstown with a stopped clock and understand why they would not do it in those circumstances.

Here's Austin Crawford's first shot that was called off: Twitter

 

At the end of the 2nd OT here's what happened. A Williamstown player made a 3 to make it 89-87. The clock was at 7.2 when the shot was made. The ball rolled in the floor and a Williamstown player picked it up. He then held the ball in front of a Bracken County player out of bounds. The Bracken player did not touch it. The Williamstown player then put the ball on the ground and then Bracken player picked it up as the clock hit 0.

 

The Bracken players quickly shook hands and were hurried into the locker room. The refs deliberated.

Twitter

 

The Williamstown players stayed on the floor while the crowd chanted forfeit and Bracken fans yelled the game was over. The refs talked for about 5 minutes and it was then decided the game was over. The Polar Bears where escorted out the back door by a police officer.8

 

This is great coaching by both coaches IMO, but not that great on the administration end.

 

I will assume W-Town was out of time outs, and as such, if I'm coaching and we need a stoppage, I'm telling my player to pick up the ball. Likewise, if I'm BC and know that situation, I tell my kids to not pick it up and risk the delay, because time is my enemy at that point. I'm sure Hinson was on top of this one.

 

As I like to say, preventative officiating gets this cleaned up. Know the game situation and the likely scenarios....this one was pretty easy, and appears to be questionable.

 

It would not be unheard of for a coach to tell an official they were going to delay, assuming they had not been warned during the game previously.

I am more interested in what happened at the end of the game. So Williamstown made a shot with 7.2 seconds left on the clock. As someone said above, the clock does not stop in high school (it does in college, though). I am not sure what the rule is as to when the 5-second count starts when the opposing team does not take affirmative steps to retrieve the ball and attempt an in-bounds pass. My sense is that it is not uncommon for a shot to be made with 7 seconds left but the 5-second count to not start until there are less than 5 seconds left on the clock, because it takes a couple seconds to retrieve the ball and start the inbounding process. I guess Williamstown did not save a time-out for this possibility. As for the Williamstown player picking the ball up after the made basket, the officials could have given a delay of game warning, but that would only be rewarding Williamstown with a stopped clock and understand why they would not do it in those circumstances.

 

The inverse is true: by not calling a delay, they penalize the strategy. As soon as the opposing player has secured the ball, not tapped through the net, and that player does not immediately pass it or tap it to an official, it is a delay. Irrespective of intention, that's a game management situation.

The inverse is true: by not calling a delay, they penalize the strategy. As soon as the opposing player has secured the ball, not tapped through the net, and that player does not immediately pass it or tap it to an official, it is a delay. Irrespective of intention, that's a game management situation.

 

Except for the fact that the case book specifically covers this and says otherwise

 

 

9.2.10 SITUATION A: A1 is out of bounds for a throw-in. B1 reaches through the boundary plane and knocks the ball out of A1’s hands. Team B has not been warned previously for a throw-in plane infraction. RULING: B1 is charged with a technical foul and it also results in the official having a team warning recorded and reported to the head coach. COMMENT: In situations with the clock running and five or less seconds left in the game, a throw-in plane violation or interfering with the ball following a goal should be ignored if its only purpose is to stop the clock. However, if the tactic in any way interferes with the thrower’s efforts to make a throw-in, a technical foul for delay shall be called even though no previous warning had been issued. In this situation, if the official stopped the clock and issued a team warning, it would allow the team to benefit from the tactic. (4-47-1; 10-1-5b, c; 10-3-10)”

Bracken County never had a chance to secure the ball. The Williamstown player grabbed the ball and held it and the officials did nothing. Had BC had a chance to get the ball by the time they did they could have stood out of bounds and let the horn go off.

 

Bracken County immediately sent their team to the locker room. One coach from BC was saying "that's a case play and it has to be a technical foul by rule."

 

He then told Coach Hinson to tell them "if they put time on this clock and don't call a technical to tell the officials and the official scorer this game is under protest."

 

As soon as that was said the officials blew the whistle and said game over and ran off the court.

 

In short, they knew had messed up, had no idea what time to put on the clock and didn't know if a T should have been called. So they tucked away their tail and ran.

 

Total circus in Williamstown last night.

He then told Coach Hinson to tell them "if they put time on this clock and don't call a technical to tell the officials and the official scorer this game is under protest."

Never seen this before.

Need your expert opinion @Bandit29

Is Stanley out for an extended amount of time or is this precautionary?

 

Sounds like it was a great game.