If you lived in a city with multiple schools and your kid was forced to go to the worst high school because of where you lived, wouldn't you like an opportunity to send them to a better school?

 

Sure, but you can do that now. We have a choice of sending our kids where we want for a fee. If they want to tinker with regular public education, then give public schools the ability that they are giving charter schools...in all facets. It will not happen

Yes some what, Open enrollment accepts kids from out of the district freely...but doesn't give them freedom to move around within the district.

 

That's what I thought. I know I have a friend in Louisville that lives almost walking distance from Fern Creek but he sent his son to Male because of academic and baseball reasons.

Hard to have an opinion on this.

Soooo many scenarios to play out.

 

Random thoughts/questions...

 

Wouldn't the concept of "district" still need to apply in some way? I mean, who gets priority on the seats? You live in City or current district X so you are automatically in?

Or does it really mean that they are basically saying that ALL DISTRICTS are open?

Similar to a Kenton County, except now you can try to get into ANY school...

 

At 1st thought, I like the idea, but there would be massive amounts of work ahead of time to plan out an implementation. Admission criteria, dis-qualifiers, How many seats, etc.

Imagine the administrative nightmare around admissions.

Imagine the # of lawsuits against some districts because they didn't let kids in.

 

I don't fully understand current school funding. What comes from state/fed, vs what is on my annual tax bill.

As I understand it, FTISD tuition students pay $X. If the home district lets the state/fed $z, the tuition is the difference between the two.

Would those more highly sought after districts, be able to raise the tuition rate?

Supply vs Demand...

 

I'm sure I'd come up with more ???

But since my youngest is a senior, I won't be paying too much attention...

Can't see this passing, because there will be a loud and well funded resistance by all the school districts where real estate taxes are high, most of which funds the school system. Property values will be affected by this greatly in some cities, because the reason property values stay elevated in a city like, say Ft. Thomas, is because students who live in Ft. Thomas get to attend school there automatically. People are willing to pay higher taxes, keeping the property values up, if their kids get the benefit of access to the schools. If just anyone can go to Highlands, without paying tuition, then not only will the school system be quickly overburdened, the revenue that is presently generated at Highlands from tuition paying students would presumably go away.

 

There will be STRONG resistance from successful public school systems.

 

I was thinking about property values as well.

Since I am currently IN FTISD, would that negatively impact my perceived value?

Or, depending on how lines are set up today, there is a section of Ft Thomas that is actually in the Campbell Co school district. How would that impact them?

Sure, but you can do that now. We have a choice of sending our kids where we want for a fee. If they want to tinker with regular public education, then give public schools the ability that they are giving charter schools...in all facets. It will not happen

 

Everyone doesn't have that choice.

 

What is being offered to charter schools that isn't available for public schools, I'm asking because I have no idea.

That's what I thought. I know I have a friend in Louisville that lives almost walking distance from Fern Creek but he sent his son to Male because of academic and baseball reasons.

 

I think everyone should have that choice.

This will put the small schools out of business as they will not have enough money to pay the bills?

Maybe the parents of kids who don't get in to more desirable schools will push the Boards to improve the other schools. This would be a good consequence.

This will put the small schools out of business as they will not have enough money to pay the bills?

 

I think it will make good small school systems stronger as they will have a possible influx of students and with that more money.

Cherry picking could be eliminated legislatively by placing students in order by the time they apply...hopefully if this passes something like that will be put in place to make it a first come first serve situation.

 

Kids have switched schools since the beginning of time because they don't like a teacher or their parents get upset over an issue the kid is having. I knew kids that switched schools back and forth almost yearly due to "Issues" they were having, switching now will be no different than in the past.

 

Where did you get the 40% number?

 

Any student that is special needs receives federal funding beyond the "typical" student. The feds do not support the total cost if educating the students. On average it is around 40% more than the 100% extra needed to educate the student. Another case of a mandate the is legally binding but not funded. For instance, you may have to hire an aide and purchase some devices for a student that costs around 30K, the federal government might reimburse the district 12.5 K, therefore, the district has to come up the remaining out of general funds. So why if I were a district want to take next door neighbors student that is medically fragile and eat 60% of the cost out of local funds generated by taxpayers in a district the student doesn't live. I won't if I find a loophole. Therefore that parent in all reality has no choice, unlike the typical student that say has an average IQ, little discipline issues, etc.

 

They will not legislate, or I would be shocked if they did, a first come first serve. Not their style. Districts will find ways around not taking students they don't want and getting students they do.

Can't see this passing, because there will be a loud and well funded resistance by all the school districts where real estate taxes are high, most of which funds the school system. Property values will be affected by this greatly in some cities, because the reason property values stay elevated in a city like, say Ft. Thomas, is because students who live in Ft. Thomas get to attend school there automatically. People are willing to pay higher taxes, keeping the property values up, if their kids get the benefit of access to the schools. If just anyone can go to Highlands, without paying tuition, then not only will the school system be quickly overburdened, the revenue that is presently generated at Highlands from tuition paying students would presumably go away.

 

There will be STRONG resistance from successful public school systems.

 

This will not adversely affect the high fliers, this will kill the urban, small rural districts. They will be left with the even more challenging kids. The GOP is smart enough to leave the high fliers alone. They will get to cherry pick, guaranteed.

 

Saw it happen first hand in Kenton County is the mid 80's. I don't have enough computer space to list the problems.

Everyone doesn't have that choice.

 

What is being offered to charter schools that isn't available for public schools, I'm asking because I have no idea.

 

Start with PL94142 and go thru accountability. They are not even close to being the same. In laymans terms charter schools are nothing more than private schools with public funding. As far as kids not being able to go to nicer schools now that could if it is free (Their will be other criteria that will hamper them in this proposed system as well) These type of schools will be very selective.

all schools are not strong and it will put the bad ones in a terrible jam as where will this money be made up? Taxpayers!

Any student that is special needs receives federal funding beyond the "typical" student. The feds do not support the total cost if educating the students. On average it is around 40% more than the 100% extra needed to educate the student. Another case of a mandate the is legally binding but not funded. For instance, you may have to hire an aide and purchase some devices for a student that costs around 30K, the federal government might reimburse the district 12.5 K, therefore, the district has to come up the remaining out of general funds. So why if I were a district want to take next door neighbors student that is medically fragile and eat 60% of the cost out of local funds generated by taxpayers in a district the student doesn't live. I won't if I find a loophole. Therefore that parent in all reality has no choice, unlike the typical student that say has an average IQ, little discipline issues, etc.

 

They will not legislate, or I would be shocked if they did, a first come first serve. Not their style. Districts will find ways around not taking students they don't want and getting students they do.

 

Thanks, didn't it say the state and federal funding would follow the student if they moved? If so wouldn't that 40% go with them?

 

As to your last comment, that is a shame that educators would be that shallow and albeit corrupt to not accept kids on a first come first serve basis...if what you think will happen actually happens.

I apologize if this has already been addressed, but even if students are allowed to go to the school they want, does the KHSAA have the authority to not allow that student to play athletics at that school?