Oldercoach Posted December 26, 2016 Posted December 26, 2016 Is it just my impression, or are high school coaches taking more liberties with their protests and complaing on calls? Each year we have multiple threads about how inferior officiating has become in multiple regions. No question, the grey hairs are not being replaced fully by younger, faster, and accordingly better equipped to keep up with todays' faster and more athletic game. Contact use to be a foul, now it's the level of contact, i.e. straight arm vs bent elbow. Subjectivity at its best exists on most plays. Without question the subjectivity/interpretation of today's officiating has coaches questioning more calls and crowd discontent naturally following. Is it not a natural result that fewer of the younger guys want to step into these personality battles with aggressive/experienced coaches that are becoming experts at working the refs? Just asking.
camelman Posted December 26, 2016 Posted December 26, 2016 You are on to something here. As you touched on it, I think it definitely begins with the fact suspect officiating is reaching epidemic proportions.
sweet16 Posted December 26, 2016 Posted December 26, 2016 And younger refs tend to be more aggressive towards coaches as well. Veteran officials will let a coach rant a little then talk with the coach. Veteran officials will tend to admit when they miss a call as well.
TheDeuce Posted December 26, 2016 Posted December 26, 2016 And younger refs tend to be more aggressive towards coaches as well. Veteran officials will let a coach rant a little then talk with the coach. Veteran officials will tend to admit when they miss a call as well. Should veteran coaches be allowed to "vent a little?" Each official will be different in terms of how far they'll let a coach go before it's too far. There's a difference between questioning a call and trying to make a scene.
sweet16 Posted December 26, 2016 Posted December 26, 2016 Should veteran coaches be allowed to "vent a little?" Each official will be different in terms of how far they'll let a coach go before it's too far. There's a difference between questioning a call and trying to make a scene. They can vent as long as it is done the right way.
TheDeuce Posted December 26, 2016 Posted December 26, 2016 They can vent as long as it is done the right way. I agree. But far too often I've seen coaches purposely push the envelope and then get mad when they get T'd up.
sweet16 Posted December 26, 2016 Posted December 26, 2016 I agree. But far too often I've seen coaches purposely push the envelope and then get mad when they get T'd up. I agree. If your going to go over the top expect a T.
Wireman Posted December 26, 2016 Posted December 26, 2016 I haven't noticed anything that I would call abnormal in the games I've watched
All Tell Posted December 26, 2016 Posted December 26, 2016 I think basketball officials let way to much go. Coaches should not be on the floor, PERIOD, and yet many coach from there and I've not seen it enforced with any regularity. I've seen refs ask coaches to move back and they may but pretty soon they're back out there again. After that it should be T'ed. I've seen coaches "vent" for several minutes, that's to much. I really believe that because they can be scratched refs are timid about T'ing coaches because they want to work games.
Oldercoach Posted December 26, 2016 Author Posted December 26, 2016 When a player get's his second T, and it is often on the same play, he is gone and suspended for future games. Seems to me like most player "Ts" are quick, over with, and don't involve a disproportionate amount of crowd response. Coaches' "Ts" are an entirely different matter. Demonstrative, time consuming, crowd arousal, often extra criticism of refs on subsequent calls. How about coaches? Are they suspended for future games after their second T? Should they be?
PurplePride92 Posted December 26, 2016 Posted December 26, 2016 I've seen a coach get a technical for not saying a word and sitting on the bench with his legs crossed. Not sure what the correct answer is.
sweet16 Posted December 26, 2016 Posted December 26, 2016 When a player get's his second T, and it is often on the same play, he is gone and suspended for future games. Seems to me like most player "Ts" are quick, over with, and don't involve a disproportionate amount of crowd response. Coaches' "Ts" are an entirely different matter. Demonstrative, time consuming, crowd arousal, often extra criticism of refs on subsequent calls. How about coaches? Are they suspended for future games after their second T? Should they be? 3 games for coaches
AndOneDad Posted December 27, 2016 Posted December 27, 2016 Sorta of an interesting topic the week that Coach Feldhaus, SR. was honored. Now he, IMHO, intimidated referees consistently in his favor and most times it just took a "stare down". Although I'm sure he did get a few T's he was by far the most effective at altering how a game was called.
tark the shark Posted December 27, 2016 Posted December 27, 2016 Should veteran coaches be allowed to "vent a little?" Each official will be different in terms of how far they'll let a coach go before it's too far. There's a difference between questioning a call and trying to make a scene. Would Billy Hicks be the "gold standard" on this subject? I have seen him change games with just his glare towards officials. There are more assistants getting vocal and standing up more than I can ever remember.
PurplePride92 Posted December 27, 2016 Posted December 27, 2016 3 games for coaches Is that the same for players?
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