The exact boys' figures aren't needed to make the point.

What he is saying is as true as can be.

 

"Conventional Wisdom" would say that Cincinnati football is better than NKY football.

 

Take the top Cincinnati team each year and play the best team in NKY for the last 10 years. Cincinnati would likely win 10 times.

 

Take the second best team in Cincinnati each year and play the second best team in NKY for the last 10 years. Cincinnati would likely win 10 times.

 

 

Now what "conventional wisdom" doesn't see is that NKY best teams would be Division 3, 4, or 5 (Highlands, CovCath, Beechwood, NCC) in Ohio while Cincinnati's best teams would all be Division 1.

 

Take the best Division 3, 4, or 5 team in Cincinnati and play the best Division 1 team in Cincinnati for each of the last 10 years. The Division 1 team will win 10 times.

 

Now take the best Division 3, 4 or 5 size teams in NKY and play the best Division 3, 4, and 5 teams in Cincinnati each year and I think NKY wins the majority of the games.

What he is saying is as true as can be.

 

"Conventional Wisdom" would say that Cincinnati football is better than NKY football.

 

Take the top Cincinnati team each year and play the best team in NKY for the last 10 years. Cincinnati would likely win 10 times.

 

Take the second best team in Cincinnati each year and play the second best team in NKY for the last 10 years. Cincinnati would likely win 10 times.

 

 

Now what "conventional wisdom" doesn't see is that NKY best teams would be Division 3, 4, or 5 (Highlands, CovCath, Beechwood, NCC) in Ohio while Cincinnati's best teams would all be Division 1.

 

Take the best Division 3, 4, or 5 team in Cincinnati and play the best Division 1 team in Cincinnati for each of the last 10 years. The Division 1 team will win 10 times.

 

Now take the best Division 3, 4 or 5 size teams in NKY and play the best Division 3, 4, and 5 teams in Cincinnati each year and I think NKY wins the majority of the games.

 

I agree with all your points...You can't compare apples to apples when talking the division 1 teams in Cincinnati...they would do the same to the smaller, more comparable teams in Ohio, as well...I do agree theres more talent overall in Ohio, but, shouldn't there be based on the population of the 2 states and as 1 poster commented, 800 schools compared to 200 schools that play football...It's more a #s thing then flat having more talent...shouldnt there be 4 times as many d-1 players coming out of ohio based on #s alone...Ky is a more basketball oriented state, for sure, and the football interest as a whole is greater in Ohio.on that note, I'd say oh is better, but, don't compare the div 1 private schools to ky, unless you want to just throw out X and trinity, who, in most years, could hold there own against the big Oh schools...

I would guess there are more than 4 times the number of Division I signees in Ohio than in Kentucky. Anybody out there have the actual numbers? I think Kentucky had 20-25 last year in the entire state. I might bet Cincinnati had numbers approaching those.

 

In my opinion, Trinity and St. X could not play with the Ohio big schools. Don't get me wrong, they are both extremely disciplined and well-coached, but both are outmatched against Ohio's best, big school teams.

In my opinion, Trinity and St. X could not play with the Ohio big schools. Don't get me wrong, they are both extremely disciplined and well-coached, but both are outmatched against Ohio's best, big school teams.

Which is why T knocked off what was arguably Elder's best team ever, and X beat Moe a few years ago as well. In their "up" years they would be right there with the big boys, and in the average years they would do the same thing that happens to Elder/Cincy X/Moeller when they have an off year...

Take this score comparison for what it's worth:

 

Kentucky's Class 3A, enrollment-wise, is roughly equivalent to Ohio's Division III. Last year's Division III runner-up was St. Francis DeSales of Columbus, which beat Highlands 48-22 during the regular season. Lexington Catholic, the 3A state champion, beat Highlands 17-0 during the playoffs.

Take this score comparison for what it's worth:

 

Kentucky's Class 3A, enrollment-wise, is roughly equivalent to Ohio's Division III. Last year's Division III runner-up was St. Francis DeSales of Columbus, which beat Highlands 48-22 during the regular season. Lexington Catholic, the 3A state champion, beat Highlands 17-0 during the playoffs.

 

 

Noted.

 

But the comparison was Cincinnati vs NKY football not Ohio versus KY football.

 

I contend that if Highlands is the best D 3 size school in NKY, they would in most years beat the best D 3 team in Cincinnati.

 

Furthermore, if you want to talk Ohio vs KY state-wise the big difference is that KY's state champ in each class could compete quite well in the same size class in Ohio. The main difference is that there would be 5 or 6 quality teams in Ohio for every 1 or 2 quality KY teams based on the population advantage Ohio has.

Noted.

 

But the comparison was Cincinnati vs NKY football not Ohio versus KY football.

That is why I said to take it for what it's worth.

I contend that if Highlands is the best D 3 size school in NKY, they would in most years beat the best D 3 team in Cincinnati.

 

Furthermore, if you want to talk Ohio vs KY state-wise the big difference is that KY's state champ in each class could compete quite well in the same size class in Ohio. The main difference is that there would be 5 or 6 quality teams in Ohio for every 1 or 2 quality KY teams based on the population advantage Ohio has.

I don't disagree with any of that.

 

There aren't that many Division III schools in the Cincinnati area, is there? Or, at least, there don't seem to be that many good ones.

My analysis I have is only on this one point that came to me, I think it will be agreed.............IMO one of the major differences is the competition. In Kentucky, Highlands just say not sure on the fact here but lets say plays 6 Kentucky teams atleast 4 of those will be blowouts and big wins. Same with Beecwood and the other power NKY teams. Put them in the Cincy conferences and despite maybe 1 or 2 easy victories, every game will be a battle. I guess my point is just that other than the Colerains, Cincy St.X, Elder in the early 2000's, and those other powerhouse schools the parity from top to bottom is much better than in the NKY districts, which would produce very good football games for the schools like I said Highlands, Beechwood, and those others if they were in Cincinnati. That's where Ohio/Cin get NKY is with the talent levels top to bottom.

Ohio's Division 1 is may be the best classification in the country. So many talented teams and players in Division 1.

 

On another note, it blows my mind how Ted Ginn Sr. cant win a division 1 state title at Cleveland Glenville with all those studs. It seems like half of OSU's team came from Glenville.

Ohio's Division 1 is may be the best classification in the country. So many talented teams and players in Division 1.

 

On another note, it blows my mind how Ted Ginn Sr. cant win a division 1 state title at Cleveland Glenville with all those studs. It seems like half of OSU's team came from Glenville.

 

Just like the song says "Size Matters"!:laugh: :laugh: