You ever been in a fight with a body cam on? I've talked to several officers. It can happen.

 

This was not a small man and both the officers were engaged in taking him to the ground. The cameras could have been ripped off. Doesn't mean there is a design defect.

 

If they are designed to remain intact, then that is exactly what it is. I don't get the point of them if they aren't going to give visual for a whole altercation. Sure, once in the altercation much of the visual will be a blur, but if they come off that easy, would audio equipment work just as well?

If they are designed to remain intact, then that is exactly what it is. I don't get the point of them if they aren't going to give visual for a whole altercation. Sure, once in the altercation much of the visual will be a blur, but if they come off that easy, would audio equipment work just as well?

 

Nope, no design defect.

If they are designed to remain intact, then that is exactly what it is. I don't get the point of them if they aren't going to give visual for a whole altercation. Sure, once in the altercation much of the visual will be a blur, but if they come off that easy, would audio equipment work just as well?

 

Take the tinfoil off your head. They didn't rip them off on purpose. I'm telling you from experience those body cams in theory are great but in practicality they're junk half the time, they fall off in foot pursuits, tussles with folks. Hell, my seatbelt has knocked mine off. The problem is how or where to put them. Some of them have this "z" looking clip that is supposed to hook it's self on both sides of the shirt between buttons. Another is one where it has a clip that slide down in a shirt pocket. The main problem is that these cameras are pretty frickin heavy and the laws of physics take over and they fall off way more than they should.

Take the tinfoil off your head. They didn't rip them off on purpose. I'm telling you from experience those body cams in theory are great but in practicality they're junk half the time, they fall off in foot pursuits, tussles with folks. Hell, my seatbelt has knocked mine off. The problem is how or where to put them. Some of them have this "z" looking clip that is supposed to hook it's self on both sides of the shirt between buttons. Another is one where it has a clip that slide down in a shirt pocket. The main problem is that these cameras are pretty frickin heavy and the laws of physics take over and they fall off way more than they should.

 

Ok, so there is a design affect. The whole point of them is to record interactions with the public. Really to cover police in situations like this, and they didn't work bc they fell off. Again, they didn't serve the purpose they were designed for. Is that accurate? They fell off and were unable to record? That is what happened.

Ok, so there is a design affect. The whole point of them is to record interactions with the public. Really to cover police in situations like this, and they didn't work bc they fell off. Again, they didn't serve the purpose they were designed for. Is that accurate? They fell off and were unable to record? That is what happened.

 

Definitely a defect, but when the whole dang country is screaming for them, these companies rushed them to market to cash in. Not the officer or the departments fault. And because everyone demands them, these companies can put as much or little effort into a functional practical design as they want. The departments will still pay out the nose for them.

The attorney for the store owner says others also recorded the incident. He says those will be used to check the "narrative" that BRPD comes out with.

The first video we saw was recorded by an activist group called Stop the Killing, Inc. They monitor the police scanner in Baton Rouge and go record.

The first video we saw was recorded by an activist group called Stop the Killing, Inc. They monitor the police scanner in Baton Rouge and go record.

 

I wonder why they didn't record from the beginning then? Did they just get there or edited the first part out?

 

A different question: if a guy is getting tazed and another guy tackles him, does the current go through the tackler also?

Ok, so there is a design affect. The whole point of them is to record interactions with the public. Really to cover police in situations like this, and they didn't work bc they fell off. Again, they didn't serve the purpose they were designed for. Is that accurate? They fell off and were unable to record? That is what happened.

 

Mount a GoPro in the middle of your chest and get in a fight on the ground with someone. Most of the time all you will see in a hand to hand fight on camera, is the other guys chest.

 

Body cams aren't expected to stay on during a MMA style fight on the ground. They are pretty good at recording when there is some distance of a few feet between the officer and the person. But chest to chest all you will see is maybe the other guys shirt.

 

Simply no way to mount them that they won't or can't get knocked off during a fight. If can come up with a way patent it, if logical without adding weight you could be rich selling them all over the country.

I wonder why they didn't record from the beginning then? Did they just get there or edited the first part out?

 

A different question: if a guy is getting tazed and another guy tackles him, does the current go through the tackler also?

 

No it doesn't shock the other guy.

If I'm tackling, grabbing, pushing, pulling, punching in close combat, there's no way a body camera could tell the whole story, I'm thinking audio from the camera would be more valuable.

You'd be surprised how easy stuff comes off even in the easiest of altercations or foot pursuits, radios, radio mics, pins, mags, cuffs, batons, flashlights, etc. Those things just go flying

The attorney for the store owner says the police illegally seized the store's security footage.

 

Baton Rouge Police Took Alton Sterling Surveillance Video Without a Warrant or Permission - The Daily Beast

 

That explains why the owner didn't send his cell phone footage to BRPD and , instead, sent it directly to the FBI.

If I'm tackling, grabbing, pushing, pulling, punching in close combat, there's no way a body camera could tell the whole story, I'm thinking audio from the camera would be more valuable.

Most the time the images are only so many frames per second so it's all a blur or pixilated

So you approach him without addressing the gun?

 

I guess my question is, how do you get to that point and be surprised by the gun?

 

Ok deuce I had a whole list of stuff along the lines of your question but I really need to see the initial approach towards the suspect.

 

Is there any video of the initial pull up by the cops?