The latest chapter in the whole public v. private saga came through the pipe earlier this week in the form of Tuesday's vote by the Kentucky High School Athletic Association Board of Control to split the state into six classes for football beginning in 2007.

 

Wow, what a dumb idea.

 

Talk about cheapening the championships.

 

Bottom line - life's not fair. Isn't this a far better lesson for kids to learn in high school than to have parents and administrators rig the system to create a bunch of less-meaningful championships for the benefit of kids' self-esteem?

 

Nobody wants to hear it, but to beat the big boys, you have to work harder than them. And I don't just mean on the field, either.

 

I know many people involved in the Trinity and St. X communities, as well as at other football powerhouses such as Danville, Highlands, Beechwood and Covington Catholic. Almost to a man, when I ask the reasons for their success over the years, they point to things like tradition, deep community support (not just parents, but the whole community) and strong youth leagues.

 

The rest of the article from Sentinal-Echo

Just one man's humble opinion, but here it is :

 

More classes means more teams competing for a championship, which means more exposure for those schools who are not fortunite to be a traditional power. More exposure means more student/athletes having an oppurtunity to open college recruiters eyes. Thus, having an oppurtunity to get to the next level and obtain a college degree. After-all, isn't that the MOST important goal of high school athletics, to open doors for student/athletes to go to college. Just one man's thoughts.

All I can say is that states like TX, AL, GA, FL that traditionally produce top notch talent all have more than 4 classes. I sincerely doubt any of those people associated with the teams that won championships feel that theirs isn't as nice or worthy than any other class.

 

How many divisions are there in college? I guess those kids at any level other than D1 don't value their championships as much.

 

How will creating smaller districts among schools much closer to population size water anything down? If anything it should create more competitive districts and make KY football more exciting. Plus smaller districts mean schools can now schedule more non-district games creating several more big matchups.

All I can say is that states like TX, AL, GA, FL that traditionally produce top notch talent all have more than 4 classes. I sincerely doubt any of those people associated with the teams that won championships feel that theirs isn't as nice or worthy than any other class.

 

How many divisions are there in college? I guess those kids at any level other than D1 don't value their championships as much.

 

How will creating smaller districts among schools much closer to population size water anything down? If anything it should create more competitive districts and make KY football more exciting. Plus smaller districts mean schools can now schedule more non-district games creating several more big matchups.

 

Those states also have many more schools and a much larger population.

Just one man's humble opinion, but here it is :

 

More classes means more teams competing for a championship, which means more exposure for those schools who are not fortunite to be a traditional power. More exposure means more student/athletes having an oppurtunity to open college recruiters eyes. Thus, having an oppurtunity to get to the next level and obtain a college degree. After-all, isn't that the MOST important goal of high school athletics, to open doors for student/athletes to go to college. Just one man's thoughts.

I see your point of veiw, and thats a good way to look at it...I agree 100%. :thumb:

Just one man's humble opinion, but here it is :

 

More classes means more teams competing for a championship, which means more exposure for those schools who are not fortunite to be a traditional power. More exposure means more student/athletes having an oppurtunity to open college recruiters eyes. Thus, having an oppurtunity to get to the next level and obtain a college degree. After-all, isn't that the MOST important goal of high school athletics, to open doors for student/athletes to go to college. Just one man's thoughts.

 

Very good post,i agree 100%.:thumb:

 

Nobody wants to hear it, but to beat the big boys, you have to work harder than them. And I don't just mean on the field, either.

 

I know many people involved in the Trinity and St. X communities, as well as at other football powerhouses such as Danville, Highlands, Beechwood and Covington Catholic. Almost to a man, when I ask the reasons for their success over the years, they point to things like tradition, deep community support (not just parents, but the whole community) and strong youth leagues.

 

 

The problem with his logic is that Danville, HHS, Beecwood, CCH, LC, etc all compete against teams with similar enrollments. So, in those cases, the "work harder" , "community support" line of thinking is correct.

 

However, as I've stated numerous times regarding this and the public/private, this is ALL about T and X. They have a distinct advantage from their enrollment numbers that most 4A schools cannot compete with. Yes, they work hard and have great community support but we all will agree that its a lot easier to find 22 talented players out of 1500 boys than it is out of 600 or 700 like many 4A schools do.

However, as I've stated numerous times regarding this and the public/private, this is ALL about T and X.

 

:thumb:

Just one man's humble opinion, but here it is :

 

More classes means more teams competing for a championship, which means more exposure for those schools who are not fortunite to be a traditional power. More exposure means more student/athletes having an oppurtunity to open college recruiters eyes. Thus, having an oppurtunity to get to the next level and obtain a college degree. After-all, isn't that the MOST important goal of high school athletics, to open doors for student/athletes to go to college. Just one man's thoughts.

 

:thumb: I agree 100% :thumb: I also think that somewhere in this debate all of this has been forgotten

The problem with his logic is that Danville, HHS, Beecwood, CCH, LC, etc all compete against teams with similar enrollments. So, in those cases, the "work harder" , "community support" line of thinking is correct.

 

However, as I've stated numerous times regarding this and the public/private, this is ALL about T and X. They have a distinct advantage from their enrollment numbers that most 4A schools cannot compete with. Yes, they work hard and have great community support but we all will agree that its a lot easier to find 22 talented players out of 1500 boys than it is out of 600 or 700 like many 4A schools do.

 

81, that is all from the article, not my quotes.

 

However, I do agree the mirror is the first place everyone needs to start.

81, that is all from the article, not my quotes.

 

However, I do agree the mirror is the first place everyone needs to start.

 

G , I got you. I knew those were not G's thoughts.

All I can say is that states like TX, AL, GA, FL that traditionally produce top notch talent all have more than 4 classes. I sincerely doubt any of those people associated with the teams that won championships feel that theirs isn't as nice or worthy than any other class.

 

How will creating smaller districts among schools much closer to population size water anything down? If anything it should create more competitive districts and make KY football more exciting. Plus smaller districts mean schools can now schedule more non-district games creating several more big matchups.

 

First of all, you just named probably the top 4 most populated states (excluding California) when it comes to high school football. It is obviously shown by them that 4 divisions are the way to go. Even 5 might be ok, but personally, 6 is just way too many. I agree that many of the schools feel like they don't have a fair chance to compete with the other schools in their division. With a lot of the smaller schools, this is the case. But I can't say that there are too many larger schools complaining about it. Think of some of the larger schools who continue playing even though they had a few rough seasons every now and then...schools like Campbell Co, Scott, Grant Co, Franklin co, Simon Kenton, Boone Co... Recently some of these schools have made a large improvement and some haven't. And of course they have trouble competing with the 3A and 4A schools sometimes. Thats why when the underdog makes a run in the playoffs, everyone jumps behind them. Everyone loves a good upset. It almost seems like everyone is trying to make these schools equal with one another. By spreading the teams out and making more championships available, they will somehow feel like all their work has paid off when they win one. But if I were still playing and won a championship, I would almost feel as though I had cheated myself out of working hard enough. "I just won a state championship..." "Yeah, who cares, so did the other 5 schools" I may sound like I am coming down a little rough, which is not my intention. I just feel as though things are pretty good as they stand right now. I am sorry that not everyone can have programs like BWood, NCC, Danville, Cov. Cath, Highlands, Trinity, X, and Male; but it takes many years of hard work and determination to build these up. I believe with the right coaches and the right players who also have this determination to succeed to their fullest potential, any school could eventually become a state contender, year after year.

Just one man's humble opinion, but here it is :

 

More classes means more teams competing for a championship, which means more exposure for those schools who are not fortunite to be a traditional power. More exposure means more student/athletes having an oppurtunity to open college recruiters eyes. Thus, having an oppurtunity to get to the next level and obtain a college degree. After-all, isn't that the MOST important goal of high school athletics, to open doors for student/athletes to go to college. Just one man's thoughts.

 

 

Great post. What people do not understand that this is about helping CHILDREN!!! :banana:

Great post. What people do not understand that this is about helping CHILDREN!!! :banana:

Except in Louisville where it's about calling a state championship their own without any other big schools being able to claim the same thing because they didn't beat 'the Big 3'.

Except in Louisville where it's about calling a state championship their own without any other big schools being able to claim the same thing because they didn't beat 'the Big 3'.

 

 

Get over yourself! Not all of us have that mentality. Do we think that it will make things easier for those schools that have been close in 4A recently but just not up to beating the Big 3, yes. However if this is going to help more kids overall without specifically discriminating against a particular group then I am fine with it. Will I miss some of the teams that were in 4A like Dixie Heights, yes; however this has the potential to be extremely beneficial to football in this state so I am not about to talk down about it.

 

 

I would appreciate it if you would avoid labelling everyone in this great city in the same way. :irked: