Trinity was 5-5 because they played a tough schedule. They were still better than every other team in KY which is why they won. Not because of their tougher scheduling.

 

They would have beaten Dixie no matter what, but the fact of the matter is that the title was decides against Male a few weeks earlier. They would not have beaten Male had it not been for that schedule because they wouldn't have had the fortitude for the tight games otherwise.

Just have to make a couple of points.

I think the 2 long drives that LL made in the 3rd quarter really took the air out of the SK defense, and they were unable to recover. Seemed LL size and speed was too much for SK for 4 quarters.

As for the unsportsmanlike conduct by players and fans, I have an unbiased take. Not an SK grad, not from Independence, no kids in the system.

I was sitting in the section next to the SK student section for the entire game, just where my wife and I ended up. I noticed the taunting started after LL's first score. Several players on that end of LL bench were engaging students. I noticed those involved consisted of both offensive and defensive starters, which was kind of surprising. This continued for the first half, which was also surprising because they were down 28-12 for a good bit of the 2nd Q. My wife, who has gone to very few games over the past 30 years, even asked if that was normal behavior for players to act the way some LL players were acting. The taunting only escalated in the 2nd half, with more jawing and vulger gestures. Later in the 2nd half, what appeared to be SK parents/fans were yelling back at some of the LL players. Never heard any fowl language, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. I heard one fan behind me say he was going down to tell the LL staff to get their kids under control. I assume that may have been what started the out of control ruckus behind the LL bench, but I wasn't down there. I did see what appeared to be a balled up paper cup thrown at their bench. Didn't see anything else thrown. I've been to less than a handful of SK games over the past 10-15 years, witnessed both SK wins and losses. I've been to many other Ky HS football games over the years, and have never witnessed student athletes act in the manner in which "some" of the LL student athletes acted. No excuse for adults to get drawn into a confrontation with kids, but LL administration should likely address the issue with their coaching staff.

You have got to be kidding......SK is the team that needs to address the bench situation and also address administration issues with expectations of students at sporting events....where were they during all of this.....how would you like to have cups thrown at you during a game that you were attending? Trying to cover this up blaming the visitors is not the right fix....very scary situation caused totally by the home team!!!

I do agree that SK had a very weak side of the bracket. They had Campbell County, Boone, Conner, Ryle, Cooper, Seneca Butler. I think KY needs to do it like Ohio. So that way you don't have two teams playing each other in the second or third round that would play each other in state.

Ex. Male and Trinity-2015

John Hardin and Bowling Green

It all comes down to this everyone, (IF) SK has been putting home fans behind the visitors bench it is a violation of the sport specific football competition rules. Whatever their reasoning it is wrong to do. SK should either move sidelines or move their fans, problem solved.

 

VIII) SPORTS SPECIFIC COMPETITION RULES (football)

) Location of Home Team / Fans

1) It is a home game management decision as to which side of

the field is designated for home team fans and which side is

designated for visiting team fans.

2) The home team benches shall be located on the side of the

field designated to the home team fans and the visiting team

benches shall be located on the side of the

field designated for

visiting team fans.

 

Now that it has become an issue, I wonder if KHSAA will continue to allow SK to put the visting bench in front of the home fans??

Trinity was 5-5 because they played a tough schedule. They were still better than every other team in KY which is why they won. Not because of their tougher scheduling.

 

Male and St X were more talented and better than Trinity in the regular season. Trinity won two close hard fought rematches in the playoffs, and may not have won those two if not for the tough schedule.

Here's yer crow, UK #1

Just have to make a couple of points.

I think the 2 long drives that LL made in the 3rd quarter really took the air out of the SK defense, and they were unable to recover. Seemed LL size and speed was too much for SK for 4 quarters.

As for the unsportsmanlike conduct by players and fans, I have an unbiased take. Not an SK grad, not from Independence, no kids in the system.

I was sitting in the section next to the SK student section for the entire game, just where my wife and I ended up. I noticed the taunting started after LL's first score. Several players on that end of LL bench were engaging students. I noticed those involved consisted of both offensive and defensive starters, which was kind of surprising. This continued for the first half, which was also surprising because they were down 28-12 for a good bit of the 2nd Q. My wife, who has gone to very few games over the past 30 years, even asked if that was normal behavior for players to act the way some LL players were acting. The taunting only escalated in the 2nd half, with more jawing and vulger gestures. Later in the 2nd half, what appeared to be SK parents/fans were yelling back at some of the LL players. Never heard any fowl language, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. I heard one fan behind me say he was going down to tell the LL staff to get their kids under control. I assume that may have been what started the out of control ruckus behind the LL bench, but I wasn't down there. I did see what appeared to be a balled up paper cup thrown at their bench. Didn't see anything else thrown. I've been to less than a handful of SK games over the past 10-15 years, witnessed both SK wins and losses. I've been to many other Ky HS football games over the years, and have never witnessed student athletes act in the manner in which "some" of the LL student athletes acted. No excuse for adults to get drawn into a confrontation with kids, but LL administration should likely address the issue with their coaching staff.

 

This is spot on and whoever argues this or says something else happened is just fooling themselves or they are playing the poor me card.

It all comes down to this everyone, (IF) SK has been putting home fans behind the visitors bench it is a violation of the sport specific football competition rules. Whatever their reasoning it is wrong to do. SK should either move sidelines or move their fans, problem solved.

 

VIII) SPORTS SPECIFIC COMPETITION RULES (football)

) Location of Home Team / Fans

1) It is a home game management decision as to which side of

the field is designated for home team fans and which side is

designated for visiting team fans.

2) The home team benches shall be located on the side of the

field designated to the home team fans and the visiting team

benches shall be located on the side of the

field designated for

visiting team fans.

 

I guess they can call any side they choose the "home" fans side. Does not mean that is where the SK fans will sit.

Sure, adults should be held accountable for their actions, as should student athletes representing their school. I'll tell you this much. If I had a son on the sidelines, acting like "some" of the LL players were acting, he wouldn't have to worry about playing football anymore.

I think the solution here is to accommodate "suspect' student athletes that are disrespectful on the sidelines, putting them opposite the main grandstand. Funny how it hasn't been mentioned, but is it possible that the reason there were no issues on the SK sidelines is because their athletes focused on the game, and did not taunt the crowd. There's no mention of this ever being an issue at SK prior to this game, so where there's smoke, there's usually fire.

Just have to make a couple of points.

I think the 2 long drives that LL made in the 3rd quarter really took the air out of the SK defense, and they were unable to recover. Seemed LL size and speed was too much for SK for 4 quarters.

As for the unsportsmanlike conduct by players and fans, I have an unbiased take. Not an SK grad, not from Independence, no kids in the system.

I was sitting in the section next to the SK student section for the entire game, just where my wife and I ended up. I noticed the taunting started after LL's first score. Several players on that end of LL bench were engaging students. I noticed those involved consisted of both offensive and defensive starters, which was kind of surprising. This continued for the first half, which was also surprising because they were down 28-12 for a good bit of the 2nd Q. My wife, who has gone to very few games over the past 30 years, even asked if that was normal behavior for players to act the way some LL players were acting. The taunting only escalated in the 2nd half, with more jawing and vulger gestures. Later in the 2nd half, what appeared to be SK parents/fans were yelling back at some of the LL players. Never heard any fowl language, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. I heard one fan behind me say he was going down to tell the LL staff to get their kids under control. I assume that may have been what started the out of control ruckus behind the LL bench, but I wasn't down there. I did see what appeared to be a balled up paper cup thrown at their bench. Didn't see anything else thrown. I've been to less than a handful of SK games over the past 10-15 years, witnessed both SK wins and losses. I've been to many other Ky HS football games over the years, and have never witnessed student athletes act in the manner in which "some" of the LL student athletes acted. No excuse for adults to get drawn into a confrontation with kids, but LL administration should likely address the issue with their coaching staff.

I have attended many and other Fayette Co games and unfortunately this type of incident is somewhat common. Some worst than others of course. And as far as the administrations addressing the issue? No way, it will not happen.

It all comes down to this everyone, (IF) SK has been putting home fans behind the visitors bench it is a violation of the sport specific football competition rules. Whatever their reasoning it is wrong to do. SK should either move sidelines or move their fans, problem solved.

 

VIII) SPORTS SPECIFIC COMPETITION RULES (football)

) Location of Home Team / Fans

1) It is a home game management decision as to which side of

the field is designated for home team fans and which side is

designated for visiting team fans.

2) The home team benches shall be located on the side of the

field designated to the home team fans and the visiting team

benches shall be located on the side of the

field designated for

visiting team fans.

 

That can not be the whole rule, as what happens when only one side of the stadium has seating for fans? They dont put both teams on the same sideline.

That can not be the whole rule, as what happens when only one side of the stadium has seating for fans? They dont put both teams on the same sideline.

I don't think "they put" the fans on the same side, I think the fans "choose" to sit on one side.

I guess they can call any side they choose the "home" fans side. Does not mean that is where the SK fans will sit.

 

they sure can, & to follow the rule they can put their bench right in front of it.

That can not be the whole rule, as what happens when only one side of the stadium has seating for fans? They dont put both teams on the same sideline.

 

I can copy the entire rule for you if you would like. That being said it is real easy to dictate areas for fans to sit (pep clubs, bands, etc) Sure some people will pick & choose areas to sit, but overall they will fall into place.

What did you have to do to get your wet phone back from your dog? :lol2: J/K

 

A Highlands guy has jokes?