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KHSAA rebuffs proposal for classes in baseball (per Jason Frakes)

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Then why do the number of students to choose from only matter in football. Basically what you are saying is unless you have a chance of winning you can drop that sport. Same thing should apply across the board for all sports. What chance does a 1A school have against a 5A or 6A school in any sport. They don't so they play schools there own size thru the season so why even have them play in the post season.

 

Agreed, there's a reason that 99% of the country classes baseball. It's fair.

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You think Title Town (Danville and Boyle Co.) would exists in football if there wasn't classification? No way, they might only have 1-2 each instead of 10 and 7 each. If we went to classifying baseball maybe we would see some communities become Title Towns in baseball. What would be wrong with that?

Don't get mad, get better. Why de-value a state championship?

 

How are you devaluing a championship in which less than 10% of the participants have a legitimate shot at winning? All the current system does is provide fodder for "haves" to essentially practice against.

What Constitutional right is being violated by having 1 state champion?

 

IF they classify baseball and other sports then it's my OPINION that someone connected with basketball will challenge the single champion nature of basketball and it is my OPINION that one of the ways that they could possibly proceed was by saying that students in smaller schools playing basketball don't have an equal opportunity to win state championships as those in bigger schools ans evidences by the need that other sports see a need to classify. I have no idea if that's valid or not it's just an OPINION. As I've said before I don't have a dog in his fight personally I wish NO sports were classified.

IF they classify baseball and other sports then it's my OPINION that someone connected with basketball will challenge the single champion nature of basketball and it is my OPINION that one of the ways that they could possibly proceed was by saying that students in smaller schools playing basketball don't have an equal opportunity to win state championships as those in bigger schools ans evidences by the need that other sports see a need to classify. I have no idea if that's valid or not it's just an OPINION. As I've said before I don't have a dog in his fight personally I wish NO sports were classified.

 

I get what you are asking. I was just giving the counter point that would be, what protected rights were being violated. There would have to be a recognized injury to have the courts entertain it. I wouldn't doubt that a person would find a lawyer to take this case though.

I get what you are asking. I was just giving the counter point that would be, what protected rights were being violated. There would have to be a recognized injury to have the courts entertain it. I wouldn't doubt that a person would find a lawyer to take this case though.

 

That's exactly what I was saying. Some eager beaver attorney ready to make a name for him/her self. The injury would be that as some have stated here that none of the smaller schools have a real shot at a state championship.

You think Title Town (Danville and Boyle Co.) would exists in football if there wasn't classification? No way, they might only have 1-2 each instead of 10 and 7 each. If we went to classifying baseball maybe we would see some communities become Title Towns in baseball. What would be wrong with that?

@niner, I know you follow baseball pretty closely. What type of classification system would you prefer? 2, 3, 4 classes?

I'd like to see a 4 class system. Similar to old football one.

I'd like to see a 4 class system. Similar to old football one.

 

Was four what was initially proposed?

I believe so. I was told another plan is already being drawn up. Only change is that classification would only be for sports that have 9 or more starters on the field. So i guess that would include baseball, softball, football, boys soccer and girls soccer. That way it keeps away from basketball and messing with the KHSAA's sweet 16.

Don't get mad, get better. Why de-value a state championship?

 

Nothing to do with getting better. A small school can be as good as they ever will be and still not be able to complete for a region title.

There isn't a good reason not to have classes.

I am going to get beat up on this but I'll ask. Didn't 1A Beechwood play in finals maybe in 2006 and in semi's a few years before? 1A Brossart make semi's a few years back and 2A Lex Christian win in 2005?

I think in baseball if you have a pitcher or two it's easier than basketball.

I know I'm going to get beat up on this, just pointing out its hard, not impossible.

 

All correct. good point.

4 examples over a 10 year period. THat really is not that many.

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