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Breaking: Notebook Obtained by OTL Confirms Rose Bet on Reds During Playing Career

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Rose Bet on Baseball During Playing Career

 

 

For 26 years, Pete Rose has kept to one story: He never bet on baseball while he was a player.

 

Yes, he admitted in 2004, after almost 15 years of denials, he had placed bets on baseball, but he insisted it was only as a manager.

 

 

But new documents obtained by Outside the Lines indicate Rose bet extensively on baseball -- and on the Cincinnati Reds -- as he racked up the last hits of a record-smashing career in 1986. The documents go beyond the evidence presented in the 1989 Dowd report that led to Rose's banishment and provide the first written record that Rose bet while he was still on the field.

 

"This does it. This closes the door," said John Dowd, the former federal prosecutor who led MLB's investigation.

 

Well, that should pretty much end any chance of Rose ever being reinstated....

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Like anyone believed he never bet on the Reds then as well.

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Wonder how they obtained it.

 

The documents are copies of pages from a notebook seized from the home of former Rose associate Michael Bertolini during a raid by the U.S. Postal Inspection Service in October 1989, nearly two months after Rose was declared permanently ineligible by Major League Baseball. Their authenticity has been verified by two people who took part in the raid, which was part of a mail fraud investigation and unrelated to gambling. For 26 years, the notebook has remained under court-ordered seal and is currently stored in the National Archives' New York office, where officials have declined requests to release it publicly.

Still doesn't change that I believe he belongs in the Hall as a player. Betting on baseball didn't help him put the ball in play all those times.

Put him in the HOF; never let him back in baseball again.

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Still doesn't change that I believe he belongs in the Hall as a player. Betting on baseball didn't help him put the ball in play all those times.

 

I agree, which is why I think he'll get inducted in right after he dies.

Still doesn't change that I believe he belongs in the Hall as a player. Betting on baseball didn't help him put the ball in play all those times.

 

Until you can prove to me he was throwing games this means nothing IMO.

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I agree, which is why I think he'll get inducted in right after he dies.

 

I agree, Pete is never walking into the HoF as a member.

I find it hard to believe that anyone would be surprised by this and it is even a story. Doesn't deserve to be in, as I have always said.

I was not alive for the Rose era, but wasn't his nickname "Charlie Hustle?" (or something like that?)

 

I cannot imagine he'd ever throw a game; let him in the Hall.

I find it hard to believe that anyone would be surprised by this and it is even a story. Doesn't deserve to be in, as I have always said.

You're out of your mind.

You're out of your mind.

 

Why? Because I don't buy into just because Rose was a great player (which he was) he automatically belongs in the HOF. Character for whatever reason matters in the baseball HOF to the writers that vote.

 

When they take that criteria out of the equation, then yes, he should go in.

I was not alive for the Rose era, but wasn't his nickname "Charlie Hustle?" (or something like that?)

 

I cannot imagine he'd ever throw a game; let him in the Hall.

 

Yeah, I can't imagine he would have thrown a game or bet on himself (Reds) to lose either...as far as betting on them to win, yeah that's pretty easy to believe.

 

On a side note ARod (how many times has he been suspended) just got his passed Willie Mays on the all-time HR list and collected his 3000th hit, all while getting paid over $20,000,000 this season.

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