I figured the Louisville teams would prefer playing earlier in the playoffs.

 

That way they can get it over with and just face some piddling school from out in the state that simply isnt commited to having the best football program, has coaches who just aren't as smart or hard working, as well as players who aren't as dedicated or willing to give what it takes to win. :bunny:

 

Then the finals can simply serve as a fun coronation where the Louisville team can let their subs and freshmen play in a title game while the varsity signs autographs and gives interviews on the sidelines. :sleep:

 

I do have this correct don't I?

 

Cheers,

Woody Jr

 

 

 

....everyone understands this is just a little parody, right

I figured the Louisville teams would prefer playing earlier in the playoffs.

 

That way they can get it over with and just face some piddling school from out in the state that simply isnt commited to having the best football program, has coaches who just aren't as smart or hard working, as well as players who aren't as dedicated or willing to give what it takes to win. :bunny:

 

Then the finals can simply serve as a fun coronation where the Louisville team can let their subs and freshmen play in a title game while the varsity signs autographs and gives interviews on the sidelines. :sleep:

 

I do have this correct don't I?

 

Cheers,

Woody Jr

 

 

 

....everyone understands this is just a little parody, right

Parody or not, that's how 4A worked before they split the sides...

Hey the catholic boys get nothing but respect from us in Ashland.

We lost to St X back in those days when we were at-large champs.

I'm sure the Blue Tornado remember our visit to Paducah the week before.

 

I'm for lining up & playing ball. I just like good football, my team, your team, just so it's not that darn team up north:fight:

 

Cheers, Woody Jr

 

 

 

 

 

.....yes, still hating those new OSU jerseys :cry:

Hey the catholic boys get nothing but respect from us in Ashland.

We lost to St X back in those days when we were at-large champs.

I'm sure the Blue Tornado remember our visit to Paducah the week before.

 

I'm for lining up & playing ball. I just like good football, my team, your team, just so it's not that darn team up north:fight:

 

Cheers, Woody Jr

 

 

 

 

 

.....yes, still hating those new OSU jerseys :cry:

I'm FAR from a "Catholic boy". Just pointing out the obvious...

That's the reason that I have been beating this dead horse with Alabama Larry.

 

Male has a stadium unlike any other at a public school in Jefferson County (except Manual which is a whole different animal). The year it was built the light standards at Iroquois were condemned. I know for a fact that every resource that JCPS could make available was done so as to insure Male's new stadium was 100% functional to start the season while Iroquois had to play their games right after school on Fridays because there was not enough money to replace their lights. About mid season the lights finally came back on at Iroquois.

 

You make it sound like Male has a blank check where JCPS funding is concerned. First of all, much of Male's stadium was paid for with funds contributed by alumni. Second, when the school was moved, a new stadium needed to be constructed that would meet requirements that were then in place (handicap access, bleacher seating that was safer for small children). By definition, it was bound to be "unlike any other at a public school in Jefferson County" because it had to meet current regulations. What you conveniently omit is the fact that Male's old field on South Brook St was unsuitable for play for several seasons in the 1970's and lagged far behind most other public stadiums in amenities all through the 1980's. Where was this perceived favoritism then?

 

Male had several years where they were the only public school that could draw from the entire county AT THE EXPENSE OF OTHER PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

 

And your point is? All (or very nearly all) JCPS schools are open enrollment now and have been for probably at least a decade now. I'm sure if you dig back far enough, you can uncover when Male first received electric lighting, and how much of an unfair advantage it was compared to the "lesser" schools that had to make due with oil lamps. Sheesh.

 

 

I find it very, very distasteful for anyone that is a supporter of Male to say anything about unfair advantages when they refuse to admit that most if not all of the advantages they say the private schools have over them they in fact have over the other public schools.

 

For the record, the only advantages I have claimed that the large privates have are: 1) 6A enrollment playing against 4A competition 2) Exemption from Title IX requirements 3) No enrollment boundaries of any kind 4) Autonomous school-based decision making. If any of these are advantages Male has over all the other public schools, I'd like you to point them out for me.

2000

 

Gerry Ahrens (a product of a Catholic grade school I might add)

 

His brother later played for Ballard (also a product of a Catholic grade school)

 

And just like there are those that will never believe that private schools don't illegally recruit I don't believe that a great athlete would be turned away from Male. Over the years there have been to many that have gotten in. Ahrens for one and Tony Driver for another. We will agree to disagree.

 

Check your facts. Ahrens QB'd the 1998 team. Brandon Blackerby QB'd the 2000 team.

 

Earl Heyman (who saw considerable playing time as a freshman with U of L last season) could not get in to Male and had to attend Ballard.

Doe's anyone think that limiting the number of kids that can dress each game would help at all?From what I have seen it isnt really the overwhelming talent difference it's the amount of talent that privates bring at each position to every game.I mean if you see Whitley Co. play St.X it would look like St.X had three teams on there sideline compared to Whitley which is a 4A.I dont think it's the initial talent starting the game that upsets people its the fact that teams like Whitley and such have to rely on there starters the whole game while St.X and Trinity rotate people just as talented as the ones there replacing the whole game.I know people will say "You cant punish us for that and it's not our fault."and thats true.But how about if they do classification by taking into account the male to female ratio at each school.I dont have the numbers nor do I feel like looking them up but I would say there is a big disparity between St.X and Trinity compared to South Laurel,Whitley,and other publics.Or I could be wrong....believe it or not.

H posted:

 

For the record, the only advantages I have claimed that the large privates have are: 1) 6A enrollment playing against 4A competition 2) Exemption from Title IX requirements 3) No enrollment boundaries of any kind 4) Autonomous school-based decision making. If any of these are advantages Male has over all the other public schools, I'd like you to point them out for me.

 

1) I agree. This is the main advantage, IMHO. Although, isn't Male also larger than many 4A's? (but still the male enrollment is smaller than X or T's)

 

2) Where is this an advantage in football?

 

3) It would be interesting to test this "advantage". We hear it constantly. Does anyone know how many starters X and T had who lived outside of Jefferson County last year? Could any X and T people clear up this issue? Also, I understand that public school students can cross county lines to attend a public school, but then they must pay a small tuition. If this is true, has or does Male have any out of county players?

 

4) Is this correct? X has never been under the control of the Archdiocese, but at least until a couple of years ago, I understood that all other Catholic High Schools in Jefferson County were.

Check your facts. Ahrens QB'd the 1998 team. Brandon Blackerby QB'd the 2000 team.

 

Earl Heyman (who saw considerable playing time as a freshman with U of L last season) could not get in to Male and had to attend Ballard.

 

As I understand it Earl chose to attend Ballard. I don't know if he "could not get in to Male" and I doubt you do. Remember Earl had "hoop-dreams" as well, and Ballard isn't a bad place to play that sport.

In 4A? Pretty much. Competing those infamous Big 3 is a stepping stone to success in the tournament. The road to the title is through those three schools. If you can play with them, you can play with anybody in the state.

 

While I do agree that you will most likely have to beat one or possibly two of the 3 to win state in 4A I do not believe to beat one of those teams means you have arrived in the elite status of 4A. The only true measure of success in any class is wins and titles.

Check your facts. Ahrens QB'd the 1998 team. Brandon Blackerby QB'd the 2000 team.

 

Earl Heyman (who saw considerable playing time as a freshman with U of L last season) could not get in to Male and had to attend Ballard.

Sorry, I'm not buying.

You make it sound like Male has a blank check where JCPS funding is concerned. First of all, much of Male's stadium was paid for with funds contributed by alumni. Second, when the school was moved, a new stadium needed to be constructed that would meet requirements that were then in place (handicap access, bleacher seating that was safer for small children). By definition, it was bound to be "unlike any other at a public school in Jefferson County" because it had to meet current regulations. What you conveniently omit is the fact that Male's old field on South Brook St was unsuitable for play for several seasons in the 1970's and lagged far behind most other public stadiums in amenities all through the 1980's. Where was this perceived favoritism then?

I knew with this "discussion" it would just be a matter of time until you chimed in. Heaven forbid anyone say anything remotely negative about Male. The stadium is head and shoulders above ANYTHING that was required by code at the time it was built. The new stands that were built last year at Eastern meet code requirements and they are standard steel framework bleachers, not a cement based stadium like was built at Male. The perceived favoritism comes in the fact that a high school named Male still exists at all. Why not move the traditional program and call it Durrett High School, after all it's the program not the name that makes the school, right?

 

 

And your point is? All (or very nearly all) JCPS schools are open enrollment now and have been for probably at least a decade now. I'm sure if you dig back far enough, you can uncover when Male first received electric lighting, and how much of an unfair advantage it was compared to the "lesser" schools that had to make due with oil lamps. Sheesh.

My point is that for almost 10 years Male was one of only 2 public schools not tied to boundaries and they took kids that live in other school's districts, building a program and tradition (just like the private schools) that other public schools were not able to build. Kids WANTED to be there.

 

For the record, the only advantages I have claimed that the large privates have are: 1) 6A enrollment playing against 4A competition 2) Exemption from Title IX requirements 3) No enrollment boundaries of any kind 4) Autonomous school-based decision making. If any of these are advantages Male has over all the other public schools, I'd like you to point them out for me.

Amazing how you now deem to speak for all Male fans. Also amazing how you neglect to mention that Male can pick and choose their student body, they can get rid of "problem" students and they can demand parental involvement. Can the other public schools do that? Those are all reasons given as to why private schools have an "unfair playing field" over public schools and it sure seems to me that Male has those same advantages.

As I understand it Earl chose to attend Ballard. I don't know if he "could not get in to Male" and I doubt you do. Remember Earl had "hoop-dreams" as well, and Ballard isn't a bad place to play that sport.

 

It was posted several months ago that Earl tried to get into Male as a frosh but couldn't because he was not already in the Traditional program as a middle schooler. Note that his brother Dexter was an impact player last year as a sophomore. His parents made sure he was in the Trad program by middle school.

 

Male is no slouch in basketball, either (comparable to Ballard in many respects).

It was posted several months ago that Earl tried to get into Male as a frosh but couldn't because he was not already in the Traditional program as a middle schooler. Note that his brother Dexter was an impact player last year as a sophomore. His parents made sure he was in the Trad program by middle school.

 

Male is no slouch in basketball, either (comparable to Ballard in many respects).

I don't know who posted that but I doubt it was Earl or his mother so one might consider the source. Note that Earl's older brother starred at Male, maybe Earl wanted to blaze his own trail. Doesn't really matter, he has done quite well.

Earl Heyman (who saw considerable playing time as a freshman with U of L last season) could not get in to Male and had to attend Ballard.

Not true. PM me if you want details.