First off thats an awesome list and like you said it could be added onto. I agree with pretty much all of waht youve said. No I do not think there is that type of talent at Danville now or anywhere in this area period. The point I was trying to make was that there are lots of kids with talent not playing. Would they make teams comparable to these guys? Not a chance. However it would make us a lot better in 2A. I see them up there weekly and they just wont play. As far as coaching is concerned I feel comfortable saying I probably know more than most about whats going on there and I dont put much blame on them at all. They are doing what they can and then some. The weight room is totally renovated and they use it all the time. As you said people arent giving Clay the same as they did Harp and its not right. Do I agree with every play he called? No but thats any fan but I also know hes a whole lot better than I ever would be. Harp stayed a little too long thats obvious. Clay is involved all the way down to the youngest youth league team and wants to get this program back where it can be. I doubt it ever will get back to where it was and thats just the facts. Yes it is true we used to have administrators that were 100% behind the athletics and now they are not which does hurt. Those days were awesome though and did it all without controversy or any of that mess. Just pure talent that went out and won.

 

Harp had 4 sale signs in his yard after coaching 3 games at danville, what is the criteria now. :deadhorse: Clay can stand on his own......dont you think its time to just face the facts.

Harp had 4 sale signs in his yard after coaching 3 games at danville, what is the criteria now. :deadhorse: Clay can stand on his own......dont you think its time to just face the facts.

 

What facts exactly do you want me to face?

Jared Southerland plays golf and he is a stud at golf. He should be playing golf. Other than that I'd love to know who can help the team that isn't playing. At what position? Are we talking linemen?

 

YES lol, the line was small. A lot of what Im talking about would be lineman or linebackers. As far as skill players go no real studs but a few kids I see in there on Fridays and Tuesdays setting up the gym, they are quick and athletic but have no interest in playing anything. Like I said we will never be what we were I know that but having more kids always has potential to help.

What facts exactly do you want me to face?

 

#1. Harp stepped into a hornets nest with 7 kids on his roster in his 1st yr and was not given the leeway you suggest. 2. You have to have athletes to win and they have to be coached (you dont just send them out and win at a high level. 3. there was a big drop in over all talent from 1994 to 2006 if you look at it objectively and still danville pulls in 3 more titles and 3 ru. From 2006 to present it has dropped even more, still danville reaches semis in 2010 with an avg group. 4. There is no one to blame as insenuated over and over. 5.Clay doesnt need excuses or this or that from the past. 6. If there are kids that are going to turn this around they must be in elem school because I dont see them at the MS and HS. "There not in the halls at this time" Make do with what you have" and face the facts

From watching their basketball team, I think Matthew Turner, Trevin Washington, and Spencer Mckinney could've helped there football team this year. I know one thing they got a few 4th 5th and 6th graders that are gonna be real good in the future. Just hold tight Ads fans, its not dead and over yet. Some of those kids parents are the names Harry Doyle mentioned in a previous post, so hopefully they will understand the tradition better than the kids they have now on Danville football.

yes as Ive said Im more than well aware you have to have athletes and coach them thats sort of the whole point. Like I said you cant coach now without people coming down on him. Its not an excuse its a fact. What Clay has said himself is he needs more kids out playing on top of what he has. Clearly Ive said multiple times that we don't have the same talent we had in the 80's and 90's but do have some talent not playing which regardless what you think is true. "Make do with what you have" is what Danville always has done in good and bad seasons which I also said and is why we did make the semis in 2010. Had a lot of kids play that year and one very talented running back. Actually the 6th grade and elementary level does have some good talent which is why I also said it will be at least 5 years before we see a huge difference again. So again Im not sure what facts Im not facing I just pointed out its not done for good Danville will get back but obviously will never be what they were. Just curious what job do you have in the Danville schools that you know each and every kid and their athletic abilities so well?

yes as Ive said Im more than well aware you have to have athletes and coach them thats sort of the whole point. Like I said you cant coach now without people coming down on him. Its not an excuse its a fact. What Clay has said himself is he needs more kids out playing on top of what he has. Clearly Ive said multiple times that we don't have the same talent we had in the 80's and 90's but do have some talent not playing which regardless what you think is true. "Make do with what you have" is what Danville always has done in good and bad seasons which I also said and is why we did make the semis in 2010. Had a lot of kids play that year and one very talented running back. Actually the 6th grade and elementary level does have some good talent which is why I also said it will be at least 5 years before we see a huge difference again. So again Im not sure what facts Im not facing I just pointed out its not done for good Danville will get back but obviously will never be what they were. Just curious what job do you have in the Danville schools that you know each and every kid and their athletic abilities so well?

I could very well ask you the same question, but I dont need too.

From watching their basketball team, I think Matthew Turner, Trevin Washington, and Spencer Mckinney could've helped there football team this year. I know one thing they got a few 4th 5th and 6th graders that are gonna be real good in the future. Just hold tight Ads fans, its not dead and over yet. Some of those kids parents are the names Harry Doyle mentioned in a previous post, so hopefully they will understand the tradition better than the kids they have now on Danville football.

 

I completely agree with all of that. No doubt those 3 could help for sure but Spenc is right where he belongs in the fall on that golf course. Kids could do both but when you're as good as he is I understand that. Another example of not having to play just one sport all year to be great at it. He was tough back in 4th, 5th and 6th grade though when he did play as were Trevin and Mathew who played a little longer. Great points about who some of these younger kids belong to and more importantly understanding the tradition. This State Championship slump has hurt the understanding of tradition because these kids never watched Danville win a state title like we did growing up.

Danville just hasn't been the same since blowing that state title game against NCC in '06.

YES lol, the line was small. A lot of what Im talking about would be lineman or linebackers. As far as skill players go no real studs but a few kids I see in there on Fridays and Tuesdays setting up the gym, they are quick and athletic but have no interest in playing anything. Like I said we will never be what we were I know that but having more kids always has potential to help.

You may not know this if you haven't coached football before, but you can't win with kids like that.

Most of you guys are right. The next couple years are going to be tough, but help is coming. Those couple kids in the current 7th and 8th grade classes that moved out of state have moved back and those 4-6 grade classes are loaded. Clay is doing a good job and is getting kids excited about Danville football again (especially the younger kids). He and the staff are currently working with those 3-6 graders ounce a week in January and February. At the very least its getting those kids excited about football in the off season.

So will Danville be ready for the first game this year vs Rockcastle?

It looks like a few people missed the boat!

No talent left in Danvikle haha

Hats off to the staff and this group of seniors on their 3 year run. Also kudos to the 3 kids from last years team that stuck it out. I will take my crow well done.