The bolded areas about knowing the kid better doesn't apply to all parents. Parents with basketball knowledge know their kid better than the coach does in certain situations. As far as the coaching knowing more...definitely doesn't apply to all parents because believe me there are some parents in the stands that have a higher basketball IQ than some HS coaches walking the sidelines.

 

I think he probably meant everyone but you. Get real. Unless you are at every practice, meeting, talk to all his/her teachers, I highly doubt it. About 10%, at most, of coaching is actually games. Way too many coaches are judged on only games and not team building, preparation, communication, relationships, discipline, expectations, doing their job, passing classes, representing the school appropriately, it goes on and on.

 

The games, although fun to watch as a parent, most times, is not what I based a coach's effectiveness. It was the other things I mentioned that was most important to me as a parent.

I think he probably meant everyone but you. Get real. Unless you are at every practice, meeting, talk to all his/her teachers, I highly doubt it. About 10%, at most, of coaching is actually games. Way too many coaches are judged on only games and not team building, preparation, communication, relationships, discipline, expectations, doing their job, passing classes, representing the school appropriately, it goes on and on.

 

The games, although fun to watch as a parent, most times, is not what I based a coach's effectiveness. It was the other things I mentioned that was most important to me as a parent.

 

I was simply giving my opinion over many years of observing games & coaches and didn't say anything about me or a specific coach, kid, or parent. And yes I am real. If you don't like or agree with my response about coaches or parents, no problem, but don't act like you know more because I highly doubt you do.

The bolded areas about knowing the kid better doesn't apply to all parents. Parents with basketball knowledge know their kid better than the coach does in certain situations. As far as the coaching knowing more...definitely doesn't apply to all parents because believe me there are some parents in the stands that have a higher basketball IQ than some HS coaches walking the sidelines.

 

I think this holds true for some other sports, and definitely some other HS coaches.

I always make it a point in the first parent meeting, and yes I still have them, that I have an open door policy and will be happy to listen to suggestions, but there are two topics that are completely forbidden, one is Jimmy or Joes playing time, the other is I will not talk about another member of the team. Other than that I am completely open to suggestion, but will confess that in the 15+ years doing this, I can probably count on one finger the number of suggestions that actually made sense. The other point is that when I first coached I was approached numerous times, seems as though the longer you do this, the fewer parental suggestions I receive. Come to think of it, haven't had one in the last three years....that's surely the kiss of death right there!

Craziest thing I ever saw was when I was playing in the 8th grade , one of our players Dad came barging in our locker room at halftime. Seems he had drew up a handful of plays to give our coach. And guess what , you got it they were all designed with his son as the benefactor .I know the boy felt about 2 inches tall at the time. Our coach was nice about it and didn`t have him thrown out. It was probably a wise move . This guy was a pure nut job and wound up doing about 20 years for manslaughter.

 

A good friend of mine coached 8th grade at St. William in Delhi/Cincinnati. He had a player who sat at the end of the bench. Few skills but a great kid with a big heart. The kid would draw up plays during the game (all of which involved getting the ball to him) and present them to the coach at halftime. Few if any of the plays worked but the coach tried to work a couple in. The kid... is now the mayor of Cincinnati.

 

Depends on who it is and how they go about it. I've seen some coaches who could probably use suggestions.

I always make it a point in the first parent meeting, and yes I still have them, that I have an open door policy and will be happy to listen to suggestions, but there are two topics that are completely forbidden, one is Jimmy or Joes playing time, the other is I will not talk about another member of the team. Other than that I am completely open to suggestion, but will confess that in the 15+ years doing this, I can probably count on one finger the number of suggestions that actually made sense. The other point is that when I first coached I was approached numerous times, seems as though the longer you do this, the fewer parental suggestions I receive. Come to think of it, haven't had one in the last three years....that's surely the kiss of death right there!

So does this apply to you as a parent too?

To append to the above: 9 times out of 10 that it happens, it's probably not okay, but there are some instances where I think it is. You are a parent at a small school where the coach doesn't have a clue and you played DII back in college? You're probably qualified to give a pointer. Some parents, especially ones with multiple children who've been in the program, have probably watched plenty of basketball. I don't see why mentioning something in passing is awful. Again, someone who actually has something helpful to say is generally the exception to the rule though.

The bolded areas about knowing the kid better doesn't apply to all parents. Parents with basketball knowledge know their kid better than the coach does in certain situations. As far as the coaching knowing more...definitely doesn't apply to all parents because believe me there are some parents in the stands that have a higher basketball IQ than some HS coaches walking the sidelines.

 

I was only speaking for myself. I don't know more about what my kids are capable of doing on the court more than the coaches working with them everyday.

A good friend of mine coached 8th grade at St. William in Delhi/Cincinnati. He had a player who sat at the end of the bench. Few skills but a great kid with a big heart. The kid would draw up plays during the game (all of which involved getting the ball to him) and present them to the coach at halftime. Few if any of the plays worked but the coach tried to work a couple in. The kid... is now the mayor of Cincinnati.

 

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Man, I miss going to basketball games there! Even though you smelled like grease when you left; loved sitting on the stage, enjoying an adult beverage and watching the boys play!

I was only speaking for myself. I don't know more about what my kids are capable of doing on the court more than the coaches working with them everyday.

 

No problem at all and I was just giving my view based on my observations over the years. It's all good. :thumb:

I was simply giving my opinion over many years of observing games & coaches and didn't say anything about me or a specific coach, kid, or parent. And yes I am real. If you don't like or agree with my response about coaches or parents, no problem, but don't act like you know more because I highly doubt you do.

 

I have coached HS sports at the high school level with 5 state tournament appearances, had four kids play high school sports, been involved at the administrative level in hiring and firing HS coaches and I don't know everything or as much as most people, however, my experiences in all of this rings true to me and provided great experiences for most. The only real difficulties I had were parents that thought they could coach better than the coach in place.

 

To each their own and I hope you get a team some day, if you haven't already. Absolutely, one the most rewarding and thankless things I have done in the education arena.

I do my best coaching from the bleachers. I'll go on and say it, my bleacher coaching is almost legend, if only in my mind. I don't however spread my legionary talents around to unappreciative coaches to use and take credit for.

I do my best coaching from the bleachers. I'll go on and say it, my bleacher coaching is almost legend, if only in my mind. I don't however spread my legionary talents around to unappreciative coaches to use and take credit for.

 

Don't worry ... the unappreciative coaches have no use for your advice and you will never have to worry about them taking credit for it.

 

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Don't worry ... the unappreciative coaches have no use for your advice and you will never have to worry about them taking credit for it.

 

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I'm crushed