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BluegrassPreps.com Boys Rankings (1-27-15)

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Gotta keep it light, homey. :lol2: Gotta keep it light. :thumb:

 

Plus, Clizzy knows I love him. :D

 

If I were only friends with people that agreed with me I'd be very lonely.

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I still don't see it. Had I factored in out-of-state results then I'd be arguing that Trinity is the #1 team in the state.

 

Welcome to Clyde's world..........LOL

Don't know. Already said I don't follow it close enough to offer an objection to these rankings.

 

However, head-to-head is just one factor in the equation. If they beat CCH but then lost a few to lesser teams then I'd put them behind CCH. I'd also rank them on how I think they are playing TODAY. If a team lost two games early but got on a really good run I'm going to weigh the recent performance more than the early performance.

 

This all gets back to my overall point. When you're doing subjective rankings EVERYTHING is a factor. It's like telling the jury "ignore that piece of evidence you just saw." You can't.

 

Even if there is no true way to tell how damaging or helpful that evidence is. The same way you say you can't "ignore that piece of evidence you just saw" should apply to all teams that play out-of-state teams. You can't just pick and choose some out-of-state teams and then just ignore others because they don't fit a specific agenda. Either accept them all or ignore them all. That's how I see it. At least it would be consistent.

 

What about Wilmington? Were they missing players in any games against KY competition? Was it a tournament? They play multiple games in a day? They playing their 5th game in 7 days? How true is a #4 rank in Ohio? What about Taylor County? Were they at full strength when they played Wilmington? Injuries? Tournament? Dead legs? What about LexCath? Injuries? Football players back then? Tournament? Was it before or after Hawaii?

 

What about this?

 

Example:

 

CCH defeats the #4 team in Ohio.

 

Calloway County defeats the #1 team in Illinois.

 

Both teams are 17-3.

 

CCH is #3 in KY. Calloway County is #16 in KY.

 

Where should Calloway County be ranked?

If I were only friends with people that agreed with me I'd be very lonely.

 

:lol2: :lol2:

 

Same here.

Even if there is no true way to tell how damaging or helpful that evidence is. The same way you say you can't "ignore that piece of evidence you just saw" should apply to all teams that play out-of-state teams. You can't just pick and choose some out-of-state teams and then just ignore others because they don't fit a specific agenda. Either accept them all or ignore them all. That's how I see it. At least it would be consistent.

 

What about Wilmington? Were they missing players in any games against KY competition? Was it a tournament? They play multiple games in a day? They playing their 5th game in 7 days? How true is a #4 rank in Ohio? What about Taylor County? Were they at full strength when they played Wilmington? Injuries? Tournament? Dead legs? What about LexCath? Injuries? Football players back then? Tournament? Was it before or after Hawaii?

 

What about this?

 

Example:

 

CCH defeats the #4 team in Ohio.

 

Calloway County defeats the #1 team in Illinois.

 

Both teams are 17-3.

 

CCH is #3 in KY. Calloway County is #16 in KY.

 

Where should Calloway County be ranked?

 

 

All good questions. However, many of those apply to in-state games as well. We still rank teams without knowing the answers.

 

Again, the human brain is not a computer. Subjective though ALWAYS enters into a measurement like this. Despite what you say your brain cannot simply act like that game never happened.

All good questions. However, many of those apply to in-state games as well. We still rank teams without knowing the answers.

 

Again, the human brain is not a computer. Subjective though ALWAYS enters into a measurement like this. Despite what you say your brain cannot simply act like that game never happened.

You stated in post 32, I could give a flip where any team was ranked,,,,so what is your point,,give it up...Good Lord..........

Webster should be around #50

You stated in post 32, I could give a flip where any team was ranked,,,,so what is your point,,give it up...Good Lord..........

 

Bow out if this bothers you, chief.

 

You seem to struggle with following the question being asked or the point being made. But your one-handed typing is continually impressive.

 

I stated correctly that I do not care where a team is ranked. I've said nothing saying that one team should be ranked higher than another.

 

What I did say/ask was how can certain games be ignored. The brain just doesn't function that way when doing non-mathematical evaluations.

 

It's not a complicated question. PP92 gets the question.

All good questions. However, many of those apply to in-state games as well. We still rank teams without knowing the answers.

 

Again, the human brain is not a computer. Subjective though ALWAYS enters into a measurement like this. Despite what you say your brain cannot simply act like that game never happened.

 

I wouldn't say my brain ignores the game. My brain won't penalize a team for losing to an out-of-state team nor will it reward a team for defeating an out-of-state team. Had Taylor County and LexCath defeated Wilmington and CCH lost to Wilmington I would be saying that CCH should still be ranked where they are currently ranked. I'm not going to use the Wilmington game to say they should be ranked higher and had they lost I wouldn't be saying to lower them either.

I wouldn't say my brain ignores the game. My brain won't penalize a team for losing to an out-of-state team nor will it reward a team for defeating an out-of-state team. .

 

I dont think that's possible. You would have to have a unique brain (insert joke here) to do that.

You can't just pick and choose some out-of-state teams and then just ignore others because they don't fit a specific agenda. Either accept them all or ignore them all. That's how I see it. At least it would be consistent.

 

It's not picking and choosing, it's about using the information you have. Just because you don't have a gauge for how good every out of state team is, doesn't mean you shouldn't use the information you know about some of them.

 

It doesn't mean that you weight those games as more than in-state ones, or even weight them equally. But, if you know something yet choose to ignore it, that seems like a foolish decision to me.

I dont think that's possible. You would have to have a unique brain (insert joke here) to do that.

 

I think it is possible if you have no point of reference. If you say Lexington Catholic lost to a team I know nothing about except that they're from California, and beat a team I know nothing about but that they're from Maryland, neither of those would impact where I ranked Lexington Catholic.

 

However, if I then found that the team that beat Lex Cath lost to Tates Creek, then I consider dropping Lexington Catholic in my ranking. Or if I now know that a team Lex Cath beat goes on to beat Knott Co Central, then I'm considering moving LexCath up (and dropping Knott Central).

I dont think that's possible.

 

It's easier than it may seem. Is it foolproof? Maybe not. No one is person and no ranking system is perfect. Can anyone doing rankings out claim to nail each team's ranking? I don't think so. I do think that when doing rankings a system can be developed that aims for consistency and accuracy. Speaking for myself and only myself I can't put a lot of stock into out-of-state results knowing that I can't get an accurate gauge of just how good a team from out of state is on that particular night. It's hard enough following all of the teams in KY let alone trying to find out quality information about a team from out of state.

It's easier than it may seem. Is it foolproof? Maybe not. No one is person and no ranking system is perfect. Can anyone doing rankings out claim to nail each team's ranking? I don't think so. I do think that when doing rankings a system can be developed that aims for consistency and accuracy. Speaking for myself and only myself I can't put a lot of stock into out-of-state results knowing that I can't get an accurate gauge of just how good a team from out of state is on that particular night. It's hard enough following all of the teams in KY let alone trying to find out quality information about a team from out of state.

 

What if you have seen the out of state team? What if you watched the game between the team in question and the out of state team? Would you still ignore that game?

I dont think that's possible. You would have to have a unique brain (insert joke here) to do that.

 

Wouldn't he just have to HAVE a brain...any brain...in the first place?:idunno::lol2:

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