I really can't believe what I'm reading on this post. NKU was a very good Div. II program that went to the finals twice and nobody showed up at their games even though it was great basketball. Now they have doubled their attendence (although still not good ) have played UK, North Carolina, Wisconsin, Nebraska, Navy, Florida Gulf Coast, Mercer, Morehead, and had West Virginia on campus this year. If that's not going in the right direction then what is? I don't like the expensive concessions or the parking, but what division I program is free. Buy a season ticket and you'll get free parking. The BOK Center is one of the best places in the country to watch a game. You should be proud that it's in our coommunity.

 

I took from the conversation that people question the effectiveness of NKU moving to Division I. I never saw them and their crowds in Regents Hall, but everyone who did seems to think the atmosphere was much better due to a smaller venue. It does make sense that if you are drawing about 1,000 per game, Regents Hall was perfect for their basketball program. Now they play in from of 8,000 empty seats in a huge arena virtually every game. One of the assistant coaches told us they should have built the BOKC at about 5,000 capacity for basketball, but even that is too big based on the crowds. They had West Va. in this season and only had about 4,000 show up, partly because they messed up and played on a Sunday against the NFL and with the Bengals at home vs. the Steelers. That is plain old lack of common sense on someone's part at NKU, not the BOKC. Right after that game, you could tell their administrators were not happy with the crowd because they were telling everyone it would be a sellout when the game was announced. The fact they only had 4,000 or so, many of them West Va. fans, convinced me the SMG brass is correct in that NKU basketball is hurting the business of generating revenue. My solution would be to put all the women's games back in Regents Hall, and let the men play selected games in the BOKC that have the potential to draw. I am not sure how to do that, but SMG could bring in a slew of shows in the winter were they not handcuffed by having to set aside dates for NKU basketball, even the women's games that draw about 200-400 fans!

That was my thoughts also, I wonder how much longer BOKC Wildcat will be employed....

 

I am actually defending my employer, SMG, against the person who said we are not hosting the 9th region. Just FYI.

We are very glad to have you here BOKC Wildcat.

 

And, don't let Chihuahuas bother you, they are all bark.

I took from the conversation that people question the effectiveness of NKU moving to Division I. I never saw them and their crowds in Regents Hall, but everyone who did seems to think the atmosphere was much better due to a smaller venue. It does make sense that if you are drawing about 1,000 per game, Regents Hall was perfect for their basketball program. Now they play in from of 8,000 empty seats in a huge arena virtually every game. One of the assistant coaches told us they should have built the BOKC at about 5,000 capacity for basketball, but even that is too big based on the crowds. They had West Va. in this season and only had about 4,000 show up, partly because they messed up and played on a Sunday against the NFL and with the Bengals at home vs. the Steelers. That is plain old lack of common sense on someone's part at NKU, not the BOKC. Right after that game, you could tell their administrators were not happy with the crowd because they were telling everyone it would be a sellout when the game was announced. The fact they only had 4,000 or so, many of them West Va. fans, convinced me the SMG brass is correct in that NKU basketball is hurting the business of generating revenue. My solution would be to put all the women's games back in Regents Hall, and let the men play selected games in the BOKC that have the potential to draw. I am not sure how to do that, but SMG could bring in a slew of shows in the winter were they not handcuffed by having to set aside dates for NKU basketball, even the women's games that draw about 200-400 fans!

I really don't know how we gotten so far off the thread, but while we are still on the subject there are a lot of unanswered questions, mainly who is the prime tenant in this building, it just appears from some of the statements on here that there is a large break down in communications, or maybe SMG should go down the road and construct a building and promote it,,just my thoughts..

They had West Va. in this season and only had about 4,000 show up, partly because they messed up and played on a Sunday against the NFL and with the Bengals at home vs. the Steelers.

 

UK also played on TV that Sunday night at the same time. Let's see, stay in the comfort of your home and watch UK, or come out and watch NKU play just about anybody? Not a hard decision.

We are very glad to have you here BOKC Wildcat.

 

And, don't let Chihuahuas bother you, they are all bark.

 

Little dogs don't bother old Marine vets! I've seen a lot worse bites in my time, so these little barks just amuse me! lol

I really don't know how we gotten so far off the thread, but while we are still on the subject there are a lot of unanswered questions, mainly who is the prime tenant in this building, it just appears from some of the statements on here that there is a large break down in communications, or maybe SMG should go down the road and construct a building and promote it,,just my thoughts..

 

I know the building cost around $68 million dollars of state money. Not sure who primary tenant is. I say whoever brings in the money to finance the building. In a perfect world, NKU would be a primary tenant, but reality is they have very few fans compared to the high schools and big events. I don't know why they can't play the women's games in Regents Hall. As I said, they are playing a women's game in Regents Hall next month and that will be a preview of things to come, in my opinion. They will have 300-400 fans and have a real advantage playing in front of them in a smaller arena. Those same fans in the BOKC don't pay for the electricity bills. There is a disconnect between NKU and SMG on how to handle the building, dates, and the like, but keep in mind the circus that moved NKU out of the BOKC in 2009. BOTH teams had to play games in Regents Hall. So who knows who the primary tenant really is. They moved the women's game out this year to Regents Hall and cushioned it by saying it's Retro Night (wink-wink). Wonder how the court side seat ticket holders are going to use their court side seats in Regents Hall next month for the women's game? (wink-wink!).

UK also played on TV that Sunday night at the same time. Let's see, stay in the comfort of your home and watch UK, or come out and watch NKU play just about anybody? Not a hard decision.

 

I did not even know that. Makes playing the West Va. game on that Sunday even more questionable.

Wonder how the court side seat ticket holders are going to use their court side seats in Regents Hall next month for the women's game? (wink-wink!).

 

Front row of the bleachers :sssh:

 

I'd first think that moving only the women's games to Regents would be some type of Title IX issue. But, Kentucky has their men's and women's teams playing in two different venues, so I'm not sure if it would be.

 

I went to just about every home game from Fall 2004 to Spring 2009. Usually make it to 5-6 a year now, but this year I've been too busy with other priorities to make it there. Which bums me out. I'll be at the Homecoming game though, usually draws well.

 

I try to be optimistic and hope that once they have the probationary period behind them, they'll be able to draw some better talent to face in BOKC and it might help some with attendance.

I am actually defending my employer, SMG, against the person who said we are not hosting the 9th region. Just FYI.

 

FYI,,,,,,A simple YES or NO would have worked.............................

FYI,,,,,,A simple YES or NO would have worked.............................

 

Yes, a simple YES or NO would have worked. I, for one, am glad that BOKC did not go that route, the insight and dialogue seems to be welcomed by most.... sorry you do not feel that way.

Front row of the bleachers :sssh:

 

I'd first think that moving only the women's games to Regents would be some type of Title IX issue. But, Kentucky has their men's and women's teams playing in two different venues, so I'm not sure if it would be.

 

I went to just about every home game from Fall 2004 to Spring 2009. Usually make it to 5-6 a year now, but this year I've been too busy with other priorities to make it there. Which bums me out. I'll be at the Homecoming game though, usually draws well.

 

I try to be optimistic and hope that once they have the probationary period behind them, they'll be able to draw some better talent to face in BOKC and it might help some with attendance.

 

If its a Title 9 violation, why is NKU playing the women's game in Regents Hall next month? I don't know much about Title 9. Front row of the bleachers you say? How are they going to transport The Vault over the Regents Hall? Free admission to The Vault is part of your perks for being court side ticket holders. lol!

I took from the conversation that people question the effectiveness of NKU moving to Division I. I never saw them and their crowds in Regents Hall, but everyone who did seems to think the atmosphere was much better due to a smaller venue. It does make sense that if you are drawing about 1,000 per game, Regents Hall was perfect for their basketball program. Now they play in from of 8,000 empty seats in a huge arena virtually every game. One of the assistant coaches told us they should have built the BOKC at about 5,000 capacity for basketball, but even that is too big based on the crowds. They had West Va. in this season and only had about 4,000 show up, partly because they messed up and played on a Sunday against the NFL and with the Bengals at home vs. the Steelers. That is plain old lack of common sense on someone's part at NKU, not the BOKC. Right after that game, you could tell their administrators were not happy with the crowd because they were telling everyone it would be a sellout when the game was announced. The fact they only had 4,000 or so, many of them West Va. fans, convinced me the SMG brass is correct in that NKU basketball is hurting the business of generating revenue. My solution would be to put all the women's games back in Regents Hall, and let the men play selected games in the BOKC that have the potential to draw. I am not sure how to do that, but SMG could bring in a slew of shows in the winter were they not handcuffed by having to set aside dates for NKU basketball, even the women's games that draw about 200-400 fans!

 

First of all there were over 5000 paid at the West Virginia game add another 1000 for students and your at 6000. That was an entire season at Regents. Also, if you want to recruit good student athletes to come to your school you don't show them Regents Hall. Ask some of the current players and they'll tell you that one of the reasons they came to play at NKU was because of the great facilities. NKU is only in there 3rd year of Div. I, give it some time. Remember when Xavier played NKU ever year and had 2000 at their games. It wasn't that long ago that UC was having trouble getting fans to their Basketball games. Sure a 5000 seat arena might have made more sense for basketball only, but they've had great concerts and events out there were they've needed more. This way as NKU gets bigger they'll have the capacity, and they will get bigger and better. That's why the Ohio Valley Conference wanted no part of them.

First of all there were over 5000 paid at the West Virginia game add another 1000 for students and your at 6000. That was an entire season at Regents. Also, if you want to recruit good student athletes to come to your school you don't show them Regents Hall. Ask some of the current players and they'll tell you that one of the reasons they came to play at NKU was because of the great facilities. NKU is only in there 3rd year of Div. I, give it some time. Remember when Xavier played NKU ever year and had 2000 at their games. It wasn't that long ago that UC was having trouble getting fans to their Basketball games. Sure a 5000 seat arena might have made more sense for basketball only, but they've had great concerts and events out there were they've needed more. This way as NKU gets bigger they'll have the capacity, and they will get bigger and better. That's why the Ohio Valley Conference wanted no part of them.

 

You are incorrect. There were 4,019 in ACTUAL attendance for the West Va. game. You are counting in people who buy tickets and don't show, all personnel that NKU counts as attendance which I don't understand (they count players, coaches, game staff at the table). Trust me, there were not even close to the 6,000 you claim.

Must stink to go through life with the name BOKC Wildcat. You post one thing on social media and everyone knows who you are!

 

Anonymity......gotta love it!!!!!!