October 15, 201411 yr - "any hospital can handle Ebola patients"...not true - "cloth masks and goggles are sufficient to protect one from Ebola" ...a lot of nurses are not happy with this statement - "there is zero risk of transmission on a flight"...does anyone really believe this now?? - blaming the nurse in Dallas for basically breaching protocol for the reason she contracted Ebola - then totally back tracking the next day...did she breach protocol or was the protocol given her not correct? Which is it? Dallas nurses describe Ebola hospital care: 'There was no protocol'
October 15, 201411 yr - "any hospital can handle Ebola patients"...not true - "cloth masks and goggles are sufficient to protect one from Ebola" ...a lot of nurses are not happy with this statement - "there is zero risk of transmission on a flight"...does anyone really believe this now?? - blaming the nurse in Dallas for basically breaching protocol for the reason she contracted Ebola - then totally back tracking the next day...did she breach protocol or was the protocol given her not correct? Which is it? The guy who came from Africa and died got here on a flight. He had Ebola when he was on that flight. Anyone that was on that flight with him would have it by now. How many cases have we heard about?
October 15, 201411 yr The guy who came from Africa and died got here on a flight. He had Ebola when he was on that flight. Anyone that was on that flight with him would have it by now. How many cases have we heard about? How long is the incubation period? He took that flight how long ago? No word yet? Hmmm.
October 15, 201411 yr How long is the incubation period? He took that flight how long ago? No word yet? Hmmm. 3-21 days. You know the movie 28 days after.....
October 15, 201411 yr Here are the current WW numbers October 14'th CDC official numbers - 8,914 Infected 4,447 Dead. Here was projected progression posted in another forum back in March: Mar, 2014 - Infected: 104 Dead: 62 Apr, 2014 - Infected: 194 Dead: 116 May, 2014 - Infected: 360 Dead: 216 Jun, 2014 - Infected: 670 Dead: 402 Jul, 2014 - Infected: 1,247 Dead: 748 Aug, 2014 - Infected: 2,319 Dead: 1,391 Sep, 2014 - Infected: 4,313 Dead: 2,588 Oct, 2014 - Infected: 8,022 Dead: 4,813 Do you want to see the rest of the progression through 2016? WW=Worldwide How many Americans in America have died from it? How many have been diagnosed? And I'm not talking Americans who went to West Africa to treat Ebola. I'm talking Americans in America that have gotten Ebola. What are those numbers? Here is the rest of the progression: Nov, 2014 - Infected: 14,921 Dead: 8,953 Dec, 2014 - Infected: 27,753 Dead: 16,652 Jan, 2015 - Infected: 51,621 Dead: 30,973 Feb, 2015 - Infected: 96,016 Dead: 57,610 Mar, 2015 - Infected: 178,590 Dead: 107,154 Apr, 2015 - Infected: 332,177 Dead: 199,306 May, 2015 - Infected: 617,849 Dead: 370,709 Jun, 2015 - Infected: 1,149,199 Dead: 689,519 Jul, 2015 - Infected: 2,137,510 Dead: 1,282,506 Aug, 2015 - Infected: 3,975,768 Dead: 2,385,461 Sep, 2015 - Infected: 7,394,928 Dead: 4,436,957 Oct, 2015 - Infected: 13,754,567 Dead: 8,252,740 Nov, 2015 - Infected: 25,583,494 Dead: 15,350,096 Dec, 2015 - Infected: 47,585,299 Dead: 28,551,179 Jan, 2016 - Infected: 88,508,656 Dead: 53,105,193 Feb, 2016 - Infected: 164,626,099 Dead: 98,775,660 Mar, 2016 - Infected: 306,204,545 Dead: 183,722,727 Apr, 2016 - Infected: 569,540,453 Dead: 341,724,272 May, 2016 - Infected: 1,059,345,243 Dead: 635,607,146 Jun, 2016 - Infected: 1,970,382,153 Dead: 1,182,229,292 Jul, 2016 - Infected: 3,664,910,804 Dead: 2,198,946,482 Aug, 2016 - Infected: 6,816,734,096 Dead: 4,090,040,457 Not a pretty picture if even remotely close. I did hear that fatality rate may be higher outside of Africa since Ebola has been around for 30 years and some in Africa now have resistance due to genetic mixing of survivors over time. But much of the world has no natural resistance. I am not sure what to believe or worry about. I do not trust any official information from CDC or Federal agencies as it will be politically, economically, panic-adverse tainted most likely. I think an extra trip to Sam's club for some extra cases of water may be in order. If anything else is needed or if it gets as bad as the numbers above - it won't matter!
October 15, 201411 yr Here is the rest of the progression: Nov, 2014 - Infected: 14,921 Dead: 8,953 Dec, 2014 - Infected: 27,753 Dead: 16,652 Jan, 2015 - Infected: 51,621 Dead: 30,973 Feb, 2015 - Infected: 96,016 Dead: 57,610 Mar, 2015 - Infected: 178,590 Dead: 107,154 Apr, 2015 - Infected: 332,177 Dead: 199,306 May, 2015 - Infected: 617,849 Dead: 370,709 Jun, 2015 - Infected: 1,149,199 Dead: 689,519 Jul, 2015 - Infected: 2,137,510 Dead: 1,282,506 Aug, 2015 - Infected: 3,975,768 Dead: 2,385,461 Sep, 2015 - Infected: 7,394,928 Dead: 4,436,957 Oct, 2015 - Infected: 13,754,567 Dead: 8,252,740 Nov, 2015 - Infected: 25,583,494 Dead: 15,350,096 Dec, 2015 - Infected: 47,585,299 Dead: 28,551,179 Jan, 2016 - Infected: 88,508,656 Dead: 53,105,193 Feb, 2016 - Infected: 164,626,099 Dead: 98,775,660 Mar, 2016 - Infected: 306,204,545 Dead: 183,722,727 Apr, 2016 - Infected: 569,540,453 Dead: 341,724,272 May, 2016 - Infected: 1,059,345,243 Dead: 635,607,146 Jun, 2016 - Infected: 1,970,382,153 Dead: 1,182,229,292 Jul, 2016 - Infected: 3,664,910,804 Dead: 2,198,946,482 Aug, 2016 - Infected: 6,816,734,096 Dead: 4,090,040,457 Not a pretty picture if even remotely close. I did hear that fatality rate may be higher outside of Africa since Ebola has been around for 30 years and some in Africa now have resistance due to genetic mixing of survivors over time. But much of the world has no natural resistance. I am not sure what to believe or worry about. I do not trust any official information from CDC or Federal agencies as it will be politically, economically, panic-adverse tainted most likely. I think an extra trip to Sam's club for some extra cases of water may be in order. If anything else is needed or if it gets as bad as the numbers above - it won't matter! Trust your own instincts. That's all I can tell you. These numbers are all kinds of jacked up. One, you didn't answer my question. Those are still worldwide numbers. I want American numbers with American progressions. I'm not going to Africa anytime soon. Two, those numbers are based on no kind of treatment or containment of Ebola factoring into those numbers. Three, where did you get those numbers from? Western Journalism? If 4 billion people are dead from Ebola by 2016 then it sounds to me like Jesus is returning sooner than later.
October 15, 201411 yr Aug, 2016 - Infected: 6,816,734,096 Dead: 4,090,040,457 Not a pretty picture if even remotely close. UN Estimates have global population at about 7.3 billion come 2016. 6.8 billion infected? More than half the global population dead? Not seeing it.
October 15, 201411 yr Trust your own instincts. That's all I can tell you. These numbers are all kinds of jacked up. One, you didn't answer my question. Those are still worldwide numbers. I want American numbers with American progressions. I'm not going to Africa anytime soon. Two, those numbers are based on no kind of treatment or containment of Ebola factoring into those numbers. Three, where did you get those numbers from? Western Journalism? If 4 billion people are dead from Ebola by 2016 then it sounds to me like Jesus is returning sooner than later. UN Estimates have global population at about 7.3 billion come 2016. 6.8 billion infected? More than half the global population dead? Not seeing it. I hear you. Its obviously a computer model. The bad part is its accurate so far. If the doubling continues then maybe the four horsemen are not far behind. PP: In the US? Low so far but if it is 'airborne' it will escalate quickly via our high interaction in this country. Airborne will be more like the cold virus vs. the flu or AIDS virus. Once a declaration of airborne is made it either means we are in deep trouble or it will force the curtailment of travel via airplanes. Like I said - they will hold off on that call as long as possible even if its true and known to be true inside the CDC. There is just no good path if this is easily transmitted. Question has to be the Duncan Family - well exposed, over exposed. Nothing? Somewhat interesting situation there.
October 15, 201411 yr I hear you. Its obviously a computer model. The bad part is its accurate so far. If the doubling continues then maybe the four horsemen are not far behind. PP: In the US? Low so far but if it is 'airborne' it will escalate quickly via our high interaction in this country. Airborne will be more like the cold virus vs. the flu or AIDS virus. Once a declaration of airborne is made it either means we are in deep trouble or it will force the curtailment of travel via airplanes. Like I said - they will hold off on that call as long as possible even if its true and known to be true inside the CDC. There is just no good path if this is easily transmitted. Question has to be the Duncan Family - well exposed, over exposed. Nothing? Somewhat interesting situation there. Put me in the camp who doesn't believe the conspiracy theory that it is airborne and in the camp that believes it will never be airborne. If it was airborne wouldn't way way way more people have been diagnosed by now?
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October 15, 201411 yr Put me in the camp who doesn't believe the conspiracy theory that it is airborne and in the camp that believes it will never be airborne. If it was airborne wouldn't way way way more people have been diagnosed by now? You would think. Some do keep indicating that it...... could.... mutate.... to airborne even if it is not. Who knows. Starting to feel like the movie the Andromeda Strain. Knowing what the 'right' is and that so far the official line is the right answer makes you wonder. Would they lie to keep the economy flowing and avoid panic - easily plausible. 'Acceptable losses' are part of the game. If avoiding a market crash (anyone see the DOW today?) or raw panic meant a few hundred or thousand more contracted and died - probably not a hard decision. A medium term market crash or panic would probably do more harm would be the thinking. No conspiracy required. Just optimizing scenarios. WH ringing the bell louder on this second nurse...on TV now.
October 15, 201411 yr Would they lie to keep the economy flowing and avoid panic - easily plausible. 'Acceptable losses' are part of the game. If avoiding a market crash (anyone see the DOW today?) or raw panic meant a few hundred or thousand more contracted and died - probably not a hard decision. A medium term market crash or panic would probably do more harm would be the thinking. No conspiracy required. From Agent K: "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it."
October 15, 201411 yr It is airborne.....if you believe other wise you are very naive. You asked why Atlanta has had success and no infections? The room is a positive pressure room the patients are in, and you go through air locks and decontamination to come out.
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