Now watch, they will change the rules of engagement and shoot the next fence jumper, and he will be black.

 

That would be, to say the least, a PR nightmare.

 

Sounds like a great reason to make the fence taller so it takes much longer to climb over, thereby giving the officers time to recognize the security breach and get to the location in time to safely get the person into custody.

And the SS did today what they lax NEVER should go, spell out what they did to increase security! All they need to do is say the next person who jumps the fence will be shot!

 

Never, never, never spell out your security plans.

A temp short fence has been placed in front of the regular fence...I guess the thought being that once you cross the first one they'll be on you before you cross the second one.

And the SS did today what they lax NEVER should go, spell out what they did to increase security! All they need to do is say the next person who jumps the fence will be shot!

 

Never, never, never spell out your security plans.

 

 

Right on! If they announce that security measures now say to shoot anyone who gets through, I wonder how many disturbed people will come out of the woodwork looking for "suicide by SS". That's front page news!

I understand the " you have never walked in my shoes as a black male " statement. Likewise I'd guess a black guy has never been part of a group beaten by a group of young black males ( sadly I have , as a youngster ) But as a rational adult I dont make judgements about Michael Brown or this fence jumper strictly thru racial lenses.

 

I'm bi-racial, and I've been hated by black and white men at one time or another in my life... So I know both sides of the argument.

Right on! If they announce that security measures now say to shoot anyone who gets through, I wonder how many disturbed people will come out of the woodwork looking for "suicide by SS". That's front page news!

 

Hey.....maybe a crocodile moat...no wait...same problem.

So you are saying there is no possibility blacks are going to change their mindset?

 

There's always a possibility. I just don't think a discussion can be had by black people with that mindset and white people that would be prodcutive to change that mindset. It's a long pain-staking discussion that people on here can barely have with TheDeuce and myself and we don't have that mindset.

I understand the " you have never walked in my shoes as a black male " statement. Likewise I'd guess a black guy has never been part of a group beaten by a group of young black males ( sadly I have , as a youngster ) But as a rational adult I dont make judgements about Michael Brown or this fence jumper strictly thru racial lenses.

 

I've been a black guy beaten up by a group of black males. I feel your pain.

because of your skin color ? Thats 100% what mine was , they told us such, 1 of us ended up with an ER visit for facial fractures . wasnt no joke , involved being threatened with broken glass also .

But other than that, I've never been treated badly because of my skin color , I'd say you have . And that isnt cool. . I respect your opinions PP .

There's always a possibility. I just don't think a discussion can be had by black people with that mindset and white people that would be prodcutive to change that mindset. It's a long pain-staking discussion that people on here can barely have with TheDeuce and myself and we don't have that mindset.

 

And I understand that there are plenty of real reasons for that mindset. And it would be unrealistic to think things can change overnight. However, it will be nice when ALL of our leaders...politicians, publishers, preachers, etc. ... look beyond their politics, commercial ventures, whatever, and lead us on a path of good information leading to a common reality.

And I understand that there are plenty of real reasons for that mindset. And it would be unrealistic to think things can change overnight. However, it will be nice when ALL of our leaders...politicians, publishers, preachers, etc. ... look beyond their politics, commercial ventures, whatever, and lead us on a path of good information leading to a common reality.

 

Now that is something we can both agreee on right there. :thumb:

So it now seems he made it all the way into the East Room of the White House, some 100+ feet into the residence. He ran past the stair case that would have taken him upstairs to the Residence of the First Family, before finally being tackled.

 

White House fence-jumper made it far deeper into building than previously known - The Washington Post

So it now seems he made it all the way into the East Room of the White House, some 100+ feet into the residence. He ran past the stair case that would have taken him upstairs to the Residence of the First Family, before finally being tackled.

 

White House fence-jumper made it far deeper into building than previously known - The Washington Post

 

He should have been shot on sight.

He should have been shot on sight.

Yep he should have been, glad he didn't have a bomb vest on.

 

I can't imagine how many things broke down to allow this to happen.