1st offense - 6 game ban

2nd offense - lifetime ban.

 

 

 

 

Roger is still stupid on this. 6 games? Really.....should be minimum 1 year suspension for first offense.

And lifetime for a second offense? Probably too severe. I am not condoning any type of violence but that is too severe. Rice will need to live under a rock the rest of his NFL career.

Roger is still stupid on this. 6 games? Really.....should be minimum 1 year suspension for first offense.

 

There are many many levels to domestic violence and a one year penalty for a first offense is too much in most cases.

 

And remember, people (mostly women in this case) make stuff up.

 

Real difficult issue for the NFL to navigate.

Cue angry (ex)girlfriends trying to get their man kicked out of the league...

......

 

My post from July 23: I wish people considered all of the domestic abusers in the NFL too much of a distraction to have around, not just the one guy who openly loves other men.

 

In this thread: http://bluegrasspreps.com/national-football-league/tony-dungy-i-280609-page2.html

 

Glad to see the League is paying attention. :thumb:

I would hope that the NFL would wait until a conviction, other wise there are going to be a lot of guys getting shaken down for some money! Still probably going to happen though.

 

But it does send a strong message and I am fine with that.

There are many many levels to domestic violence and a one year penalty for a first offense is too much in most cases. And remember' date=' people (mostly women in this case) make stuff up. Real difficult issue for the NFL to navigate.[/quote']

 

 

I still think 6 games is too light. Domestic violence is a vague description to this punishment. At least 8-10 games if not a year.

 

 

I still believe an investigation should take place. They are allowed their due process.

direct video evidence should equal a year. Ray got off easy.

I still think 6 games is too light. Domestic violence is a vague description to this punishment. At least 8-10 games if not a year.

 

 

I still believe an investigation should take place. They are allowed their due process.

 

I agree with spindoc that Ray should have got a year because of the direct evidence and severity.

 

However, what about a player that slaps his wife/girlfriend? No question that is completely wrong but by law there is a very good chance he could be arrested/convicted for a slap that may only cause very very minor injury. Do you think a player should get a year for that?

I agree with spindoc that Ray should have got a year because of the direct evidence and severity.

 

However, what about a player that slaps his wife/girlfriend? No question that is completely wrong but by law there is a very good chance he could be arrested/convicted for a slap that may only cause very very minor injury. Do you think a player should get a year for that?

 

I agree with your point entirely. But the commish had to make a point, however late it may have been, to keep his offended audience in the fold. Damage control is what this decision is, IMO.

Now let's also take this angle:

 

Girlfriend/Wife of Player X is slapped/beaten/abused. It is made public. Player X is suspended for 6 games. Girlfriend/Wife of Player X is slapped/beaten/abused again. Player X tells her that if she reports it he will be banned from the NFL for life and her source of income will be gone as well as his. You think she's gonna want that public?

Now let's also take this angle:

 

Girlfriend/Wife of Player X is slapped/beaten/abused. It is made public. Player X is suspended for 6 games. Girlfriend/Wife of Player X is slapped/beaten/abused again. Player X tells her that if she reports it he will be banned from the NFL for life and her source of income will be gone as well as his. You think she's gonna want that public?

Or,,,,,,maybe they are having marital strife and she holds that over his head as a threat and he hasn't laid a hand on her.

Now let's also take this angle:

 

Girlfriend/Wife of Player X is slapped/beaten/abused. It is made public. Player X is suspended for 6 games. Girlfriend/Wife of Player X is slapped/beaten/abused again. Player X tells her that if she reports it he will be banned from the NFL for life and her source of income will be gone as well as his. You think she's gonna want that public?

 

I was just getting ready to post something to this effect. I could see the lifetime ban having a negative affect on victums of domestic violence in that they would be hesitant or unwilling to report the incident. If the woman is married or dependant for child support from the player than banishment from the league would have a major financial impact in their lives.

I just hate set in stone bans. Domestic abuse comes with different levels of severity. I think a smarter rule would be to give ranges so there is flexibility.

 

I've been very vocal on this site about how I feel about any man laying a hand on a woman. But common sense has to come into play as well.

I just hate set in stone bans. Domestic abuse comes with different levels of severity. I think a smarter rule would be to give ranges so there is flexibility.

 

I've been very vocal on this site about how I feel about any man laying a hand on a woman. But common sense has to come into play as well.

 

Do explain this to me? Because it seems like the law is the law and if I slap my wife across the face, or I hit her it's the same thing. No man should ever touch a woman in the act of aggression and the range of severity shouldn't come in to play IMO.