The constant defending of this embarrasment of a program is a joke.

If the KHSAA gets info from somebody (in this case, Hudson's guardian), looks into it and determines it's TRUE, then Cordia does NOT get the benefit of putting its accusers/whistleblowers on the stand.

 

Since the KHSAA does its OWN due diligence before handing down punishments, about the only person Cordia will be able to call to the stand is ... the KHSAA.

 

You're trying to imply/infer Hudson's guardian MUST take the stand (and therefore get Hazard in trouble, too). I'm saying it won't happen.

 

KHSAA has plenty on Cordia without Hudson's guardian being involved.

 

If Hudson's guardian had THAT much info on Cordia that was TRUE (true enough to get 14 sanctions leveled against Cordia), than it is CORDIA'S own fault someone who was no longer connected to the school had that type of dirt on them.

 

If you let someone into your mafia and the new mafia member turns around and rats you out, you do NOT blame the new mafia member. The Godfather (Rhodes/Whitaker) should've had the new mafia member (Hudson's guardian) sleepin' with the fishies if they were worried it would be this big of a problem.

 

Apparently they weren't.

 

And it came back to bite 'em.

 

Or maybe Hudson's guardian is lyin'. Maybe, but I doubt the KHSAA would level 14 sanctions based on a bunch of lies and ZERO FACT CHECKING of its own.

 

KHSAA is smarter than that, dude.

 

One person saying "This skool is cheatin" is NOT enough to get a school leveled with the KHSAA version of the death penalty. Come on.

 

 

And judges are smart enough not to level tons of penalties against a school on hearsay and one side saying, "aw shucks, trust our word... this has nothing to do with them already winning two lawsuits against us or the fact that one of our big witnesses was fired by them".

The constant defending of this embarrasment of a program is a joke.

 

Even worse...it's not a joke.

Even worse...it's not a joke.

 

Aww... you used to be all about the Canadian players. Lemme guess, Rod didn't give you a scoop?

While I don't normally read posts that are a huge conglomeration of words (sorry old teaching habit from way back), how are the Lots Creek Community School and Cordia related? I mean what does Alice Whitaker do exactly? Is she in charge of the school? How does this entity relate with one another?

 

I'm pretty sure that Cordia was founded by a relative of hers as a settlement school. It's located in the boonies of Knott County and has a Hazard address. It's publicly funded because the Knott County Board of Education manages it. Not sure if they use Knott's buses or not though. I think that the school buildings are not owned by the Knott County Board either.

 

Not sure how they're exactly intertwined however.

Edited August 14, 201412 yr by AHSPanther23

Aww... you used to be all about the Canadian players. Lemme guess, Rod didn't give you a scoop?

 

I'm still all about the players but I draw the line with cheating adults.

You are correct the school building, the gym and all the property is not owned by the knott co board of education. The buildings and property are owned by the lotts creek community school. The school building is leased to the knott co board from 0700-1700 hours daily. Past those times it is owned by the lotts creek community school. Alice Whitaker is the niece of Alice slone the founding member of the school in 1933. She was sent there by Alice Lloyd to open the school. Just a interesting note she went to Cleveland to college and stayed with the niece of Susan B. Anthony. Just a fun fact.

You are correct the school building, the gym and all the property is not owned by the knott co board of education. The buildings and property are owned by the lotts creek community school. The school building is leased to the knott co board from 0700-1700 hours daily. Past those times it is owned by the lotts creek community school. Alice Whitaker is the niece of Alice slone the founding member of the school in 1933. She was sent there by Alice Lloyd to open the school. Just a interesting note she went to Cleveland to college and stayed with the niece of Susan B. Anthony. Just a fun fact.

 

Very interesting. So what is Whitaker to the school then? Does she have any control on who they hire? Just seems like an interesting arrangement. How is their relationship with the Central Office?

Alice Whitaker really other than owning the building and grounds has nothing much to do with the school. She is an active supporter. The knott co board pays the teachers. The lotts creek community school(Alice Whitaker) I think pays 2 teachers and she has the say so on the hiring and firing of those individuals. Rod Rhodes is hired through the LCCS. Alice Whitaker has about 8 or 9 people on the payroll counting other staff at the school that includes wellness program director and after school programs. Cordia is really unique I have never seen another school like it sorta falls in between public and private. If there is such a thing. It is hard to understand I know,hell I am not sure I really understand the whole thing and I was the first kindergarten class they ever had there and went k-12.

You are correct the school building, the gym and all the property is not owned by the knott co board of education. The buildings and property are owned by the lotts creek community school. The school building is leased to the knott co board from 0700-1700 hours daily. Past those times it is owned by the lotts creek community school. Alice Whitaker is the niece of Alice slone the founding member of the school in 1933. She was sent there by Alice Lloyd to open the school. Just a interesting note she went to Cleveland to college and stayed with the niece of Susan B. Anthony. Just a fun fact.

 

Lots of Alices in the area.

Guys I know cordia has got beaten up by people all over the state. The reason I came over to this board is because the bluegrass rivals board is a complete joke. It is nothing more than trash talking. It should be called mountain rivals because everyone on there is from either the 13,14 or15th region. This board I feel has more civil debates. The people in the lotts creek community really genuine care about those kids and they are making a difference in their lives. Cordia sits in a spot that is geographically land locked. Ther is only about a 4 mile stretch that is in knott co. The majority of their students come from perry co or out of the district it always has. It was never a problem in the lat 1980's early 1990's when almost the whole team was made up of MC Naper or knott co kids. All I am saying is keep,an open mind in this thing. These allegations are not as bad as they seem. The khsaa has listed numerous offenses multiple times and it looks like there is more there than there really is. Most are allegations of practicing inelidigible players based on the testimony of a player that got mad and transferred due to lack of playing time. They even have a couple of violations listed before rod Rhodes even came to cordia( when Denny fugate was coach) based on the testimony of a perry central assistant coach that coached at cordia and was relieved of duty. All I am asking is just wait until ther is a trial until you make a judgement. This is still America you are innocent until proven guilty.

Alice Whitaker really other than owning the building and grounds has nothing much to do with the school. She is an active supporter. The knott co board pays the teachers. The lotts creek community school(Alice Whitaker) I think pays 2 teachers and she has the say so on the hiring and firing of those individuals. Rod Rhodes is hired through the LCCS. Alice Whitaker has about 8 or 9 people on the payroll counting other staff at the school that includes wellness program director and after school programs. Cordia is really unique I have never seen another school like it sorta falls in between public and private. If there is such a thing. It is hard to understand I know,hell I am not sure I really understand the whole thing and I was the first kindergarten class they ever had there and went k-12.

 

Pretty interesting.

Guys I know cordia has got beaten up by people all over the state. The reason I came over to this board is because the bluegrass rivals board is a complete joke. It is nothing more than trash talking. It should be called mountain rivals because everyone on there is from either the 13,14 or15th region. This board I feel has more civil debates. The people in the lotts creek community really genuine care about those kids and they are making a difference in their lives. Cordia sits in a spot that is geographically land locked. Ther is only about a 4 mile stretch that is in knott co. The majority of their students come from perry co or out of the district it always has. It was never a problem in the lat 1980's early 1990's when almost the whole team was made up of MC Naper or knott co kids. All I am saying is keep,an open mind in this thing. These allegations are not as bad as they seem. The khsaa has listed numerous offenses multiple times and it looks like there is more there than there really is. Most are allegations of practicing inelidigible players based on the testimony of a player that got mad and transferred due to lack of playing time. They even have a couple of violations listed before rod Rhodes even came to cordia( when Denny fugate was coach) based on the testimony of a perry central assistant coach that coached at cordia and was relieved of duty. All I am asking is just wait until ther is a trial until you make a judgement. This is still America you are innocent until proven guilty.

 

Very nice post. I can understand the feeling of being backed into a corner that many Cordia fans may feel but know this, it isn't the fans that people are upset at but more of the coach and administrators that allowed this to happen. It' the fans that pretend nothing wrong occurred that also upsets people

 

I asked a simple question a couple pages back and that was to list all the starters last year and where they were born. Out of district kids playing especially out of state or country aren't there for education and to pretend is silly.

Guys I know cordia has got beaten up by people all over the state. The reason I came over to this board is because the bluegrass rivals board is a complete joke. It is nothing more than trash talking. It should be called mountain rivals because everyone on there is from either the 13,14 or15th region. This board I feel has more civil debates. The people in the lotts creek community really genuine care about those kids and they are making a difference in their lives. Cordia sits in a spot that is geographically land locked. Ther is only about a 4 mile stretch that is in knott co. The majority of their students come from perry co or out of the district it always has. It was never a problem in the lat 1980's early 1990's when almost the whole team was made up of MC Naper or knott co kids. All I am saying is keep,an open mind in this thing. These allegations are not as bad as they seem. The khsaa has listed numerous offenses multiple times and it looks like there is more there than there really is. Most are allegations of practicing inelidigible players based on the testimony of a player that got mad and transferred due to lack of playing time. They even have a couple of violations listed before rod Rhodes even came to cordia( when Denny fugate was coach) based on the testimony of a perry central assistant coach that coached at cordia and was relieved of duty. All I am asking is just wait until ther is a trial until you make a judgement. This is still America you are innocent until proven guilty.

 

Worst violations in the history of the KHSAA. Almost 100 years.

Worst violations in the history of the KHSAA. Almost 100 years.

 

:laugh:

 

You cannot be serious or don't have a good grip on history.