May 21, 201412 yr She could have received a State ID when her license expired. I agree there are some extreme circumstances but as a whole we not talking about people in that situation that don't have IDs. Could have, but didn't. Had a voter ID law been enacted three months prior to the last election, she wouldn't have been able to vote.
May 21, 201412 yr Could have, but didn't. Had a voter ID law been enacted three months prior to the last election, she wouldn't have been able to vote. And that's the crux of my issue. I'm not against showing ID at all, just don't change the rules a few weeks prior to the election in a transparent attempt to keep certain demographics away from the voting precincts.
May 21, 201412 yr None of those are constitutionally protected rights. I have no problem with voter ID laws if they provide methods to obtain those ID's that are free, easy to obtain and available to all to obtain. Kentucky does not require a photo ID and poll workers can accept a SSN card. Which are free. Owning a gun is a constitutionally protected right as well but I have to show an id to buy one.
May 21, 201412 yr If free insurance, phones, job training and other benefits can be given out on a daily basis, I'm pretty sure a one time ID for Free would not cripple our economy or the Government. Agreed.
May 21, 201412 yr Could have, but didn't. Had a voter ID law been enacted three months prior to the last election, she wouldn't have been able to vote. Her expired license is still good for ID, she would have been fine if she held on to it. It's really not difficult.
May 21, 201412 yr Owning a gun is a constitutionally protected right as well but I have to show an id to buy one. "Well regulated" and votes don't kill people.
May 21, 201412 yr I showed my ID & prefer that every voter shows their ID. It takes about 15 seconds total & significantly diminishes the possibilities of confusion & fraud.
May 21, 201412 yr I have always shown my ID (Driver's License), and always have where ever I have lived, when I voted in Covington today. Two years ago I swa the pollsters turn someone away when they didn't have one.
May 21, 201412 yr Are you required to show ID at polling station of the workers don't know you? Yes. You can show a DL, a Soc Security card, or a credit card. Picture not required.
May 21, 201412 yr Her expired license is still good for ID, she would have been fine if she held on to it. It's really not difficult. Like many things in her house, it was misplaced. Even after she died, I never found it. I'm sure had she known that she would need it to vote, she would have put it some place safe. However, that was not the case. Had she been required to produce an ID with a very short turnaround prior to an election, it wouldn't have happened. As mcpapa said, that is where I have the biggest problem with a voter ID law. In my experience with my disabled parent, things that might seem "really not that difficult" could be really difficult. You probably didn't mean it as dismissive as your post sounded, but it cuts a little bit.
May 21, 201412 yr Yes. You can show a DL, a Soc Security card, or a credit card. Picture not required. Would those promoting a voter ID law be content with a social security card, or a credit card, as neither have a photo? In my mom's situation, she did have a social security card.
May 21, 201412 yr You can be denied a bank account, carpet cleaner, cell phone, etc without a photo ID. You can't be denied a fundamental constitutional right without it being free and obtainable by everyone. Otherwise it becomes a de facto poll tax. Just to be clear - suffrage is not a fundamental constitutional right of all Citizens. Criteria for eligibility to vote (such as photo IDs, but also residency, age, etc.) can be controlled by states and is controlled by states. There really is not Constitutional statement that all citizens must be allowed to vote in all circumstances. Example - Minor v Happersett.
May 21, 201412 yr You need and ID to get a Cell Phone rent a movie buy beer or cigarettes rent a car get a hotel room rent a carpet cleaner buy some video games cash a check get government benefits drive a car buy a gun buy ammunition post bond/bail for someone get a legal job pick up photo's check out a Library book and many many more daily activities, I just find it hard to believe that anyone in this country legally has an issue getting an ID. You realize there are a lot of people in this world who conduct their transactions in a matter that would be totally foreign to many of you folks. All cash, and if you need an ID, you get somebody else to do it for you. Lots of people born into this world to transient parents, or never knew their parents, never made it to the hospital. Moved so many times, wouldn't know where to find their birth certificate if there ever ever was one. Just surviving.
May 21, 201412 yr Author You realize there are a lot of people in this world who conduct their transactions in a matter that would be totally foreign to many of you folks. All cash, and if you need an ID, you get somebody else to do it for you. Lots of people born into this world to transient parents, or never knew their parents, never made it to the hospital. Moved so many times, wouldn't know where to find their birth certificate if there ever ever was one. Just surviving. And I doubt ever vote or care about voting.
May 21, 201412 yr Would those promoting a voter ID law be content with a social security card, or a credit card, as neither have a photo? In my mom's situation, she did have a social security card. Yes to Social Security Card...my dog can get a credit card.:lol2:
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