March 14, 201412 yr I've read the article, and it is all over the main gun board that I am a member of. The gun community is about 60/40 that it wasn't a good shoot with the limited details we have. I'd bet money she knew him. The TV report said she did know him unless I misunderstood the reporter
March 14, 201412 yr Its simple math A: There is a stranger in my house + B: We have a physical struggle + C: He reaches for ANYTHING = D: I am shooting him
March 14, 201412 yr I'm going to say the daughter invited the boy over. The father has a right to defend his family if he thinks they are in danger. I'm not sure he needed to kill the boy but it's hard to say without being there. Assuming the story is true for a second... if someone broke into your house and was in your daughters room and quickly reached for something...all after she says she doesn't know the person making you believe they are in your house illegally... Your first instinct isn't to kill to protect you and your family?
March 14, 201412 yr I've read the article' date=' and it is all over the main gun board that I am a member of. The gun community is about 60/40 that it wasn't a good shoot with the limited details we have. I'd bet money she knew him.[/quote'] Probably right.
March 14, 201412 yr Your first instinct isn't to kill to protect you and your family? I've never been in that position but I can tell you that my instinct isn't to kill and ask questions later.
March 14, 201412 yr I've never been in that position but I can tell you that my instinct isn't to kill and ask questions later.Not even in the scenario as I presented it??? Stranger in your daughters room, who she claims she doesn't know and he reaches for something when he sees you? Not saying that's exactly all true in this story...but if it was I can't say I wouldn't do the same thing. if he is reaching for a gun or knife and you hesitate in your own house it could be too late.
March 14, 201412 yr I've never been in that position but I can tell you that my instinct isn't to kill and ask questions later. He only shot once. Got lucky or unlucky, depending on your point of view.
March 14, 201412 yr Not even in the scenario as I presented it??? Stranger in your daughters room, who she claims she doesn't know and he reaches for something when he sees you? Not saying that's exactly all true in this story...but if it was I can't say I wouldn't do the same thing. if he is reaching for a gun or knife and you hesitate in your own house it could be too late. Correct. Like I said, I've never been in that position (fortunately), but I don't think my instinct is to kill first & ask questions later. That's just me. He only shot once. Got lucky or unlucky, depending on your point of view. My post was in limited to the scope of HB20's hypothetical & was not in response to the article (which I haven't even read).
March 14, 201412 yr What a terrible story. A lot of me hopes the girl didn't know him and he was an intruder. However, I realize there's a very small chance that's accurate. This quote makes me think she eventually fessed up to knowing him. "They say the girl initially denied knowing the boy..."
March 14, 201412 yr Here are the questions I have: How was the boy "discovered" in the girl's room? Was there screaming from her room? Did her dad just walk in? Did the father come home unexpectedly? Did the girl walk in and discover him? Was the girl in the room when the dad discovered the boy? Was the boy hiding? In plain view? What was the state of the scene? Was there any evidence that the two were "caught in the act"? Were they seemingly amicably chatting? Not much to go on from this story. But I do agree with CC, my first instinct is not to shoot first ask questions later. I'm the person who immediately starts asking questions.
March 14, 201412 yr Correct. Like I said, I've never been in that position (fortunately), but I don't think my instinct is to kill first & ask questions later. That's just me. My post was in limited to the scope of HB20's hypothetical & was not in response to the article (which I haven't even read). I have to seriously question your logic. If a man is in your teenage daughters bedroom and the circumstances lead you to believe your daughter's life is in danger your instinct isn't to stop the threat? Keep in mind, as far as you know this guy is an intruder and reaches for a weapon.
March 14, 201412 yr Here are the questions I have: How was the boy "discovered" in the girl's room? Was there screaming from her room? Did her dad just walk in? Did the father come home unexpectedly? Did the girl walk in and discover him? Was the girl in the room when the dad discovered the boy? Was the boy hiding? In plain view? What was the state of the scene? Was there any evidence that the two were "caught in the act"? Were they seemingly amicably chatting? Not much to go on from this story. But I do agree with CC, my first instinct is not to shoot first ask questions later. I'm the person who immediately starts asking questions. Chief Deputy Constable Mark Herman says the 55-year-old homeowner heard noises coming from his daughter's bedroom about 2:30 a.m. Thursday and went to investigate. He found the boy with his daughter and shot him in the ensuing altercation. Investigators said the daughter, at first, denied knowing the boy. However, sheriff's Sgt. Ben Beall says the daughter apparently knew the boy, but it was unclear if her father knew him.
March 14, 201412 yr Good article with pict of dad and boy killed. Dad shoots, kills teen boy caught in 16-year-old daughter's bedroom at 2 a.m. | PennLive.com
March 14, 201412 yr Chief Deputy Constable Mark Herman says the 55-year-old homeowner heard noises coming from his daughter's bedroom about 2:30 a.m. Thursday and went to investigate. He found the boy with his daughter and shot him in the ensuing altercation. Investigators said the daughter, at first, denied knowing the boy. However, sheriff's Sgt. Ben Beall says the daughter apparently knew the boy, but it was unclear if her father knew him. OK...what were the "noises" alluded to in the article. Some "hanky panky" noises? Screaming? Talking? What state were the two in the bedroom in? Just still completely unclear.
March 14, 201412 yr OK...this doesn't sound like the situation was an attack on the daughter. A rapist isn't going to "get under the covers" It was early Thursday morning in Texas -- 2 a.m. in fact. A 16-year-old girl’s younger brother saw two sets of feet under the covers inside the girl’s bedroom. The boy told his father, and he came in the room, locked and loaded, according to police.
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