In Ohio, where I coached for 2 years, an athlete must sit one year mandatory no matter the reason if they transfer! This is how it should be in Kentucky. Look at the top teams in the state and show me a team that doesn't have at least 2 transfers! There is a really, really good team in the 10th Region that starts 4 transfers!

 

If a kid has a parent that gets a job transfer from one city to another and the kid has to sit out a year, that is wrong.

If a kid has a parent that gets a job transfer from one city to another and the kid has to sit out a year, that is wrong.

 

I agree! What about divorce, death, house burns down, foster kids, illness in the family? Too many legitimate reasons to move to have a blanket 1 year sit out rule. No easy answer or fix for the current situation.

I say grant every student one transfer after entering the 9th grade. This transfer would have no consequences for the student. However if they chose to transfer agian (to follow a coach, etc) then the student would have to sit one year, no execeptions.

If a kid has a parent that gets a job transfer from one city to another and the kid has to sit out a year, that is wrong.

 

My not being able to fish at the Beckjord Power Plant because foreigners blew up the World Trade Center is wrong, but that doesn't change things.

I say grant every student one transfer after entering the 9th grade. This transfer would have no consequences for the student. However if they chose to transfer agian (to follow a coach, etc) then the student would have to sit one year, no execeptions.

 

Even with the rule change you suggest it wouldn't help, they would still get a court injunction and play anyway. A judge would say, "No exceptions doesn't apply to the courtroom."

Maybe I'm wrong and your idea would work. But it would have a hard time legally, especially with parents who have moved a second time because of a job transfer, or situations that arise in divorce cases with custody disputes.

My not being able to fish at the Beckjord Power Plant because foreigners blew up the World Trade Center is wrong, but that doesn't change things.

 

I'm not understanding the logic... You want to change the rule so that it does treat kids wrong?

Not seeing the connection.

I'm not understanding the logic... You want to change the rule so that it does treat kids wrong?

Not seeing the connection.

I'm saying that it isn't a perfect world. There have to be regulations and order.

Sometimes innocent folks get inconvenienced.

We have proven that there is no perfect "one rule fits all" solution. The KHSAA is presently entrusted for ruling on and doling out decisions pertaining to transfers, however, their authority is being usurped by the judicial system. Something has to change.

I'm saying that it isn't a perfect world. There have to be regulations and order.

Sometimes innocent folks get inconvenienced.

We have proven that there is no perfect "one rule fits all" solution. The KHSAA is presently entrusted for ruling on and doling out decisions pertaining to transfers, however, their authority is being usurped by the judicial system. Something has to change.

 

It wasn't like that until a few years back when an NKY school changed things. IIRC, after that, the KHSAA stated that they wouldn't be trying to overrule the courts once an injunction had been granted.

Here is an update from OHSAA. Any student-athlete who transfers schools must sit out one complete semester. So an entire year is not lost but a half is. Also many schools is Ohio are pay to play, meaning you have to pay $500 per sport to play and there are no discounts for multiple sports or ig you have a sibling playing as well.

It wasn't like that until a few years back when an NKY school changed things. IIRC, after that, the KHSAA stated that they wouldn't be trying to overrule the courts once an injunction had been granted.

Ahhh, the Mitchell debacle which actually started this snowball rolling downhill.

 

More recently a Lexington Herald Leader article - March 8, 2013 - "Bill to stop 'rampart recruiting' in high schools faces long odds"

 

"Concerned tht the KHSA was placing itself aboue the law, a group of legislators persuaded the Kentucky Board of Education in 2009 to change the controversial KHSAA policy about court orders.

 

State Rep Keith Hall, D-Phelps, noted that the policy change led to the recruiting of student athletes , which was not previously allowed by the KHSAA.

"Rampant recuiting is taking place and the KHSAA is unable to do anything about it. It's become a joke and a mockery in high school athletics. Any kid can go and get a judge to stay a KHSAA ruling that says the student cannot play."

 

^This was taken from the article back in 2013. Sadly nothing has changed since then, and guys like Happy Osborne, Roderick Rhodes, and others realize this and have used it to their advantage, knowing that the KHSAA is powerless to stop them.

 

Does that make it right???

Ahhh, the Mitchell debacle which actually started this snowball rolling downhill.

 

More recently a Lexington Herald Leader article - March 8, 2013 - "Bill to stop 'rampart recruiting' in high schools faces long odds"

 

"Concerned tht the KHSA was placing itself aboue the law, a group of legislators persuaded the Kentucky Board of Education in 2009 to change the controversial KHSAA policy about court orders.

 

State Rep Keith Hall, D-Phelps, noted that the policy change led to the recruiting of student athletes , which was not previously allowed by the KHSAA.

"Rampant recuiting is taking place and the KHSAA is unable to do anything about it. It's become a joke and a mockery in high school athletics. Any kid can go and get a judge to stay a KHSAA ruling that says the student cannot play."

 

^This was taken from the article back in 2013. Sadly nothing has changed since then, and guys like Happy Osborne, Roderick Rhodes, and others realize this and have used it to their advantage, knowing that the KHSAA is powerless to stop them.

 

Does that make it right???

 

Not really saying it makes things right or wrong, or calling specific names of coaches. Just saying that's what started this whole thing.

I think too much is being made about why these kids came to little Cordia way up in the hills of eastern Kentucky instead of migrating to other better known and closer schools to where they lived. I may be naive but I don't think there's the recruiting going on at Cordia that several on here are implying. I think it's simply that Rhodes is a well known basketball figure with his former college and NBA connections and that these young men and their families are coming to him, not the other way around. He probably gets around during the summer AAU and camp sessions and rubs elbows with other basketball personnel and tells them where he is coaching and what he's doing. Some of the kids that have transferred to Cordia are no doubt a result of parents wanting to get their kids out of dangerous environments and into a safer location. What better place to be than a quite little community nestled in the mountains of basketball crazy southeast Kentucky! And playing for a former NBA player (and for the New Jersey/ New York kids, he's from their area). Summer coaches, parents, and other probably see the conditions these kids live in and if they've heard of Rhodes or what he is doing they pick up the phone and give him a call. And IMO there's nothing wrong with that. Players transfer all over Kentucky for various reasons. Some of you seem to be hung up on the issue that these kids are transferring from out of state or a longer distance than a neighboring county. Well, IMO a transfer is a transfer, distance from where a student transfers is totally irrelevant. Every region in the state has had transfers that have helped their teams to be better, and a majority of them more than likely transferred for basketball reasons, not academics like many want to imply. And the kids in Jefferson County, 700,000 population, move back and forth all over that county to the more tradition rich basketball programs, using the 'open enrollment policy' to its fullest.

So, Cordia is not as guilty as one might think. Someone on here in one of the post defending some of the transfers from Kentucky schools to other Kentucky schools said that in those cases it wasn't the schools that recruited the players, it was the players recruiting the school (I suppose for academic reasons only, lol). So I suppose it's not okay for these Cordia kids to "recruit" Cordia because they like Rhodes and want safer environment. You want it one way if it's in your best interest but get your panties in a wad if it betters the lives and conditions of others, such as the Cordia transfers.

 

And one more thing, some have made comments such as, "Why would anyone want to move in a remote place up in the hills of Eastern Kentucky like Cordia?"

Well, FYI Cordia is not as in the middle of nowhere as you might think. Hazard, a city of 5,000, and with all the modern conveniences of many of the larger cities in the state, Lowes, Super Walmart's , Applebee's, a hospital, etc, is only a 15 minute drive away. They're not in the boondocks.

It wasn't like that until a few years back when an NKY school changed things. IIRC, after that, the KHSAA stated that they wouldn't be trying to overrule the courts once an injunction had been granted.

They went the same day 2 students from Fairview were granted an injunction to Frankfort to appeal just 2 football seasons ago.

No comment.

They went the same day 2 students from Fairview were granted an injunction to Frankfort to appeal just 2 football seasons ago.

 

I thought the Highlands decision was nearing a decade old. Wasn't it 2005?