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Reds fire Dusty Baker

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Here's an excerpt from Bill James website where he predicts the "Fielding Bible" winners. It deals with more than just simple Range Factor:

Second Basemen: Second base is a much tighter race than a season ago, when Darwin Barney ran away from the field saving an estimated 28 runs for the Cubs. Barney remains a factor in 2013, but Dustin Pedroia edges him in Runs Saved thanks to his exceptional range. Pedroia also converted 46 "difficult" groundball outs, which led the position. Brandon Phillips was third in that category with 34, but he struggled to turn double plays and had a good number of other misplays this season. Phillips’ reputation may still be enough to net him the Gold Glove in the National League.

 

Favorite..................................................................Other Contenders

Fielding Bible Award Dustin Pedroia (15)............... Mark Ellis (12) Darwin Barney (11)

 

AL Gold Glove Dustin Pedroia (15)......................... Robinson Cano (6)

NL Gold Glove Brandon Phillips (1)........................... Darwin Barney (11) Mark Ellis (12)

 

 

2013 Fielding Bible/Gold Glove Contenders

 

Phillips for sure struggles to turn the double play. He gets a pass from fans on that for some reason but it is frustrating.

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LeCure can be a strong closer. I'd put Chapman in the rotation until he shows me he's not a starter.

 

Too late to do that. They only have Chapman two more years. I'd trade him to someone wanting to make him a starter before I converted him myself if I was the Reds.

The prosecution rests, your honor.

 

How sad is that?

How sad is that?

 

People are stupid. No other way around it.

 

(No offense to non-racist stupid people)

LeCure has great location. I'd hardly consider his stuff "stuff". Gritty, wants the ball, makes pitches, but I don't want him closing in the event I'm named manager.

I don't think I'd start Chapman, I think I've made that one clear enough over the past zillion threads. But I don't think you have to if you have a rotation of Latos, Cueto, Baily, Leake and Cingrani.

 

The staff is hardly the problem.

Dont know if someone has posted this or not in here, but this is a pretty messed up article about Dusty being fired. Sure hope/thought we were all a little more grown up than this

 

Did the fans drive Dusty Baker away? - Reds Story

 

That is sad but his skin color has nothing to do with the reason he got fired.

I don't think I'd start Chapman, I think I've made that one clear enough over the past zillion threads. But I don't think you have to if you have a rotation of Latos, Cueto, Baily, Leake and Cingrani.

 

The staff is hardly the problem.

 

Agree wholeheartedly. The thing that I'd actually look at doing, would be to maybe mix up the order. I never really liked the idea of having your three fireballers back-to-back-to-back (Cueto, Latos, Bailey) and your two off-speed pitchers together (Arroyo, Leake). I know Arroyo is not likely to be back next year, but I still wouldn't mind throwing Cingrani in between say Cueto and Latos, and put Leake in between Latos and Bailey. (That way, you'd only have Bailey/Cueto as the only potential situation when the rotation turns over.)

That is sad but his skin color has nothing to do with the reason he got fired.

 

Agreed. But it clearly affected him, personally. Not the press you want as a fan base...although some don't care how they are perceived. It doesn't bode well when attempting to get a top level manager in the future.

I don't think I'd start Chapman, I think I've made that one clear enough over the past zillion threads. But I don't think you have to if you have a rotation of Latos, Cueto, Baily, Leake and Cingrani.

 

The staff is hardly the problem.

 

Yep

Dont know if someone has posted this or not in here, but this is a pretty messed up article about Dusty being fired. Sure hope/thought we were all a little more grown up than this

 

Did the fans drive Dusty Baker away? - Reds Story

 

Typical Cincinnati fans approach to their manager. Cincinnati LOOOOVES to second guess and bash their manager. I sometimes think they love that more than they love winning. As soon as the Reds name a new manager, I will be starting a thread with this title:

 

How many games before Reds fans start bashing ______ ?

Typical Cincinnati fans approach to their manager. Cincinnati LOOOOVES to second guess and bash their manager. I sometimes think they love that more than they love winning. As soon as the Reds name a new manager, I will be starting a thread with this title:

 

How many games before Reds fans start bashing ______ ?

 

The same can be said about every fan base in every sport across the country. It's not exclusive to Cincinnati fans.

Typical Cincinnati fans approach to their manager. Cincinnati LOOOOVES to second guess and bash their manager. I sometimes think they love that more than they love winning. As soon as the Reds name a new manager, I will be starting a thread with this title:

 

How many games before Reds fans start bashing ______ ?

 

It's easy to say that, but if you look at how long he's left guys that can't get on base in the one and two hole the last two years he deserves the criticism. For him to come out and say it's not called walking it's called hitting when two of his three best hitters have a fantastic approach to "hitting" it's dumb.

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