As much as I hate to say this, I think the Reds are a 75-80 win team next season. So, yes, they will be with that lineup or not.

 

I'm gonna disagree there. The pitching is way too good to win that few of games.

I guess you live your life different that Phillips

 

Not that you need this information, but just so you view my thoughts on this correctly. I left a fairly prominent job with a pretty fair compensation package because I disagreed 100% with how the owners wanted the direction to change. However, I didn't rip them publicly or respond to interview requests where I knew it would be hard not to be construed as ripping them. Publicly ripping them would make me look as poor as them, which, lo and behold, is what happened here.

I'm gonna disagree there. The pitching is way too good to win that few of games.

 

No worries...I hope you're right...I'll also be shocked if Cueto / Bailey / Latos are all on this team in April.

No worries...I hope you're right...I'll also be shocked if Cueto / Bailey / Latos are all on this team in April.

 

MTGL ... you are on a roll with good info. Don't overstep it. :lol2:

No worries...I hope you're right...I'll also be shocked if Cueto / Bailey / Latos are all on this team in April.

 

I think Chapman is the arm that is most likely dealt. A rotation of Latos, Bailey, Leake, Cingrani, and Cueto would be one of the most formidable in the game.

MTGL ... you are on a roll with good info. Don't overstep it. :lol2:

 

Reds can't afford to have a #3 starter making $10+ million -- that is the direction they are heading in. They won't let it get to that.

I think Chapman is the arm that is most likely dealt. A rotation of Latos, Bailey, Leake, Cingrani, and Cueto would be one of the most formidable in the game.

 

See #171.

Not that you need this information, but just so you view my thoughts on this correctly. I left a fairly prominent job with a pretty fair compensation package because I disagreed 100% with how the owners wanted the direction to change. However, I didn't rip them publicly or respond to interview requests where I knew it would be hard not to be construed as ripping them. Publicly ripping them would make me look as poor as them, which, lo and behold, is what happened here.

 

Can you give me Phillips quote on ripping the management?

I'm gonna disagree there. The pitching is way too good to win that few of games.

 

You are correct it is to good to win that few games. Chapman will start or be gone next season, that is why he met with them last night. I think it is the best move for the Reds as I have stated before, it gives us tons of trade potential for a guy like Stanton. For me I would go to Tampa, after they win world series or make a run at it, and hire their mananger. He gets it done! They are good every year in a place where baseball is not liked apparently. I think he would run to Cincy! Reds window is closing, time is of the esseence for winning now. Getting Stanton in LF would be big for them. Big things getting ready to happen with the Reds, lets hope they make the right moves, Cards and Bucco's not going away, and look for Nationals to be back next season.

I think Chapman is the arm that is most likely dealt. A rotation of Latos, Bailey, Leake, Cingrani, and Cueto would be one of the most formidable in the game.

 

So you think they should deal Chapman arm?

So you think they should deal Chapman arm?

 

Yes. He isn't going to resign in Cincy. He'll want to go somewhere with more of a Cuban influence. Miami would be the perfect fit IMO.

Can you give me Phillips quote on ripping the management?

 

I'm confused, you were telling me he was right in what he said now you want to see what he said?

 

Anyway, from "Cincinnati Magazine":

 

“I just feel like they didn’t have to sign Joey to that contract. He still had two more years on his,” says Phillips. “And for [the front office] to go out there and sign him before they sign me, and they knew I was going to be a free agent?” Phillips shakes his head. “I understand Joey’s a good player. He’s one of the best players in this game. But I feel like I am too. I told them that this is where I wanted to be. I begged them. I told everybody I want to finish my career here. And then they give someone a contract who didn’t ask for nothing?”

 

With Phillips hoping to garner a deal in the range of the league’s highest paid second basemen, the numbers weren’t adding up. Rumors were beginning to swirl about Phillips being used as a trade asset later in the season. Quietly, the Reds front office offered him six years for $72.5 million. Phillips says that Reds General Manager Walt Jocketty and team owner Bob Castellini—chairman of Castellini Co., the billion-dollar national produce distributor—made clear it was all the team could offer. Phillips swallowed his pride and signed the deal, though he clearly hasn’t forgotten what he perceived as a slight.

 

“To this day, I’m still hurt. Well, I don’t wanna say hurt. I’ll say scarred. I’m still scarred. It just sucks that it happened,” he says. “For [Castellini] to sign somebody for $200 million, there must be a new vegetable or fruit coming out that we don’t know about. For him to do something like that and tell me they didn’t have any more money, that’s a lie. But what can I do? I just feel like it was a slap in my face.”

You guys should just call each other :lol2:

I'm confused, you were telling me he was right in what he said now you want to see what he said?

 

Anyway, from "Cincinnati Magazine":

 

“I just feel like they didn’t have to sign Joey to that contract. He still had two more years on his,” says Phillips. “And for [the front office] to go out there and sign him before they sign me, and they knew I was going to be a free agent?” Phillips shakes his head. “I understand Joey’s a good player. He’s one of the best players in this game. But I feel like I am too. I told them that this is where I wanted to be. I begged them. I told everybody I want to finish my career here. And then they give someone a contract who didn’t ask for nothing?”

 

With Phillips hoping to garner a deal in the range of the league’s highest paid second basemen, the numbers weren’t adding up. Rumors were beginning to swirl about Phillips being used as a trade asset later in the season. Quietly, the Reds front office offered him six years for $72.5 million. Phillips says that Reds General Manager Walt Jocketty and team owner Bob Castellini—chairman of Castellini Co., the billion-dollar national produce distributor—made clear it was all the team could offer. Phillips swallowed his pride and signed the deal, though he clearly hasn’t forgotten what he perceived as a slight.

 

“To this day, I’m still hurt. Well, I don’t wanna say hurt. I’ll say scarred. I’m still scarred. It just sucks that it happened,” he says. “For [Castellini] to sign somebody for $200 million, there must be a new vegetable or fruit coming out that we don’t know about. For him to do something like that and tell me they didn’t have any more money, that’s a lie. But what can I do? I just feel like it was a slap in my face.”

 

Maybe it's just me, but I don't see anything terribly wrong with the interview. He's being honest. I think you stating that he slammed management may be a little over the top. He stated, he felt like he was lied to.

Maybe it's just me, but I don't see anything terribly wrong with the interview. He's being honest.

 

You see nothing wrong with calling your boss, the guy who signs your checks, a liar to the media?