I didn't get to watch that game. Really surprised that E had 7 or 8 that went both ways. The entire game?

 

I noticed at least 3 players going both ways for Ensworth but there could have been more. Number 10 (Furby) played tailback and LB for Ensworth and was a key player for the T loss. He was built like the RB for Elder a couple of years ago, about 6'2 and 225? They must have one heck of a conditioning program, didn't see anyone for Ensworth that looked tired at the end of the game. Both T and E gave it all they had , try to find a copy and watch it. Great game.

Would love to hear the viewpoint from some Collins fans but I thought the platoon by SK wore down the line from Collins. Collins O Line had been dominate early but seemed spent in the 4th quarter Friday.

It's interesting about this topic. I just finished watching the BG and Cooper game last week to get ready for the season this year. One thing I noticed was even though Cooper players on the line went both ways and BG platoons, it looked in that game that in the 2nd half the Cooper O-line seemed to be wearing down the BG line more than the other way around. Thought that was very interesting to watch.

After Friday night's ballgame at Caldwell County, I saw the importance of 2 platoon football. Our Tigers were harder hitting and going strong late in the game against a strong Christian County team. Dee Cain was all over the field all night, as an iron man player. He played on both sides of the ball, returned kicks, returned punts, had an interception that he returned 55 yds. for a TD, and even punted 1 time.

Would love to hear the viewpoint from some Collins fans but I thought the platoon by SK wore down the line from Collins. Collins O Line had been dominate early but seemed spent in the 4th quarter Friday.

 

I think that Collins did get a little tired in the 4th, but I don't think that is what caused them to lose. They did, however, have at least one lineman out with an injury which hurt their depth, as well as a few players get banged up during the game. I think if the Collins doesn't have so many silly penalties on their last drive they still win the game. It is, however, definitely and advantage to platoon and helped out SK. I'm hearing that this week against South Oldham Collins may try to keep from using players on both sides of the ball, especially their linemen.

After Friday night's ballgame at Caldwell County, I saw the importance of 2 platoon football. Our Tigers were harder hitting and going strong late in the game against a strong Christian County team. Dee Cain was all over the field all night, as an iron man player. He played on both sides of the ball, returned kicks, returned punts, had an interception that he returned 55 yds. for a TD, and even punted 1 time.

 

I don't think Caldwell played anyone both ways last season either, although Cain saw some action on offense.

 

You'll probably see a couple of players see some action both ways in Caldwell's bigger games this year, but for the most part Cain is the only one, and they'll rest him on both sides when they can.

 

Last count for Caldwell roster was 77. That includes 21 seniors and 18 juniors.

Can anyone that watched the Highlands/University Christian game still doubt the benefits of two platooning, or how a smart coach who two platoons can call a game to use his two platoon system to his team's great advantage?

 

Well said, I had said the same thing earlier after watching the replay of the game. Looking back, this was a brilliant choice of game for Dale. Former 2A champ with some street credibility with a predictable offense against his "deepest team ever". Was the perfect storm, IMO and made Highlands appear as a goliath. I think we all knew his hurry up offense against Trinity was going to come into play this past week. The writing was on the wall.

Can anyone that watched the Highlands/University Christian game still doubt the benefits of two platooning, or how a smart coach who two platoons can call a game to use his two platoon system to his team's great advantage?

 

I don't think there is one person who will say platooning isn't the way to go if you can go that route. But what everyone seems to forget is you have to have the athletes to platoon. You can't just throw anyone out there simply because you have the number of players to platoon, you actually have to have players that can play the game. It's not rocket science.

 

Highlands has the athletes to platoon, does that mean Bellevue does simply because they have 40 players on their roster?

I don't think there is one person who will say platooning isn't the way to go if you can go that route. But what everyone seems to forget is you have to have the athletes to platoon. You can't just throw anyone out there simply because you have the number of players to platoon, you actually have to have players that can play the game. It's not rocket science.

 

Highlands has the athletes to platoon, does that mean Bellevue does simply because they have 40 players on their roster?

 

I think the bigger question Cooper should be asking itself is, why does a 5A school, coming off a state championship appearance, only have 40 players on the roster? It's hard not to think that, among other things, the staff's reluctance to platoon has led to fewer players coming out.

I think the bigger question Cooper should be asking itself is, why does a 5A school, coming off a state championship appearance, only have 40 players on the roster? It's hard not to think that, among other things, the staff's reluctance to platoon has led to fewer players coming out.

They have something in the 50's I think as I looked it up yesterday.

 

If you don't have a lot of kids playing football there isn't much you can do. I will say it again for about the 90th time.

Since the Union Jags started up 3 years ago we are seeing the numbers increase. This is the first year that any former union jags could play Varsity ball, there are over 20 sophomores on this years team, next year will be more of the same.

 

The impatience of some is troubling at times. It's a new school. Boone County doesn't have open enrollment like other counties. They are already stuck with their hands tied behind their backs, I don't understand the obsession with Cooper and not platooning this year when there are more and even bigger schools in the area that not only have more players but also don't platoon.

 

Conner doesn't platoon, Scott doesn't platoon and they have about double the players along with Ryle who doesn't platoon, Boone is platooning this year and may have one of their worst seasons in a long time, what does that tell you? Tells me that what I've said all along is right. If you have the athletes to platoon then platoon, but if you simply have the numbers but not the athletes then don't platoon.

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I don't think there is one person who will say platooning isn't the way to go if you can go that route. But what everyone seems to forget is you have to have the athletes to platoon. You can't just throw anyone out there simply because you have the number of players to platoon, you actually have to have players that can play the game. It's not rocket science.

 

Highlands has the athletes to platoon, does that mean Bellevue does simply because they have 40 players on their roster?

 

You are right as to the bolded part above. A good question to ask next is why Highlands has the athletes to platoon. A lot goes into having the athletes to the level where the high school coaches have the ability to play players only one way, from the structure and rules of the FTJFL to the offseason conditioning, to spring football and so on. Lastly, the coaching staff has to make a commitment to getting to the point where their players only play on one side of the ball, and that can be a daunting challenge if you have a handful of really stud players that you can't envision only playing one way. So, you are right that you can't just throw anyone out there simply because of numbers, but you can put a process in place to develop all the players you have so that you can put more of them on the field knowing that they are capable of doing their job.

You are right as to the bolded part above. A good question to ask next is why Highlands has the athletes to platoon. A lot goes into having the athletes to the level where the high school coaches have the ability to play players only one way, from the structure and rules of the FTJFL to the offseason conditioning, to spring football and so on. Lastly, the coaching staff has to make a commitment to getting to the point where their players only play on one side of the ball, and that can be a daunting challenge if you have a handful of really stud players that you can't envision only playing one way. So, you are right that you can't just throw anyone out there simply because of numbers, but you can put a process in place to develop all the players you have so that you can put more of them on the field knowing that they are capable of doing their job.

 

You left out a huge reason why HHS can platoon and most Boone County schools can't. It's something I've brought up time and time again yet has been widely ignored by everyone on this topic. Campbell and Kenton Counties have open enrollment, Boone does not and whether you want to admit it or not, that is a HUGE advantage in getting athletes at one school over others in the same county. Boone including Walton Verona have 5 public High Schools with closed enrollment. That makes a huge impact.

You left out a huge reason why HHS can platoon and most Boone County schools can't. It's something I've brought up time and time again yet has been widely ignored by everyone on this topic. Campbell and Kenton Counties have open enrollment, Boone does not and whether you want to admit it or not, that is a HUGE advantage in getting athletes at one school over others in the same county. Boone including Walton Verona have 5 public High Schools with closed enrollment. That makes a huge impact.

You'll have to forgive me for being dense, but what does open enrollment have to do with developing your players so you have enough to only play on one side of the ball? I get it that Boone County schools have imposed a structure that restricts players (and students for that matter) from going to their preferred school, but my point was that no matter who the players are that are on your team now and will be until they graduate, you should develop them to be better football players. Develop enough of them between the freshman and senior years and you've got the makings of a team that only plays one way.

You'll have to forgive me for being dense, but what does open enrollment have to do with developing your players so you have enough to only play on one side of the ball? I get it that Boone County schools have imposed a structure that restricts players (and students for that matter) from going to their preferred school, but my point was that no matter who the players are that are on your team now and will be until they graduate, you should develop them to be better football players. Develop enough of them between the freshman and senior years and you've got the makings of a team that only plays one way.

First off you make it sound as if no matter what kind of player you have you can coach them up no matter what their skill level is to start on Friday nights.

 

Secondly you act as if the players aren't being coached up. You couldn't be more wrong. Cooper has The Best line coach not only in the area but possibly in the state. Which is why Cooper the last 2 years going into the seasons had their biggest question mark being their line due to who they have lost the past 2 years, 3 including this year and all they've done the last 2 years is prove their line was amongst the best part of their team.

 

They can defiantly coach up their players.

 

It must be pretty nice to sit in Ft Thomas and think that all the schools in the area have the same talent level and numbers to choose from to play on Friday nights. I actually think what Cooper has done without all the perks that HHS has at their disposal has actually proven to have performed a much better coaching job than the Hoghlands team did last year. It's more difficult to get to a state championship game with limited resources than it is to have everything HHS had last year.

 

So do me a favor, don't talk about "coaching" up players when talking about other schools if you don't know the entire story.

First off you make it sound as if no matter what kind of player you have you can coach them up no matter what their skill level is to start on Friday nights.

 

Secondly you act as if the players aren't being coached up. You couldn't be more wrong. Cooper has The Best line coach not only in the area but possibly in the state. Which is why Cooper the last 2 years going into the seasons had their biggest question mark being their line due to who they have lost the past 2 years, 3 including this year and all they've done the last 2 years is prove their line was amongst the best part of their team.

 

They can defiantly coach up their players.

 

It must be pretty nice to sit in Ft Thomas and think that all the schools in the area have the same talent level and numbers to choose from to play on Friday nights. I actually think what Cooper has done without all the perks that HHS has at their disposal has actually proven to have performed a much better coaching job than the Hoghlands team did last year. It's more difficult to get to a state championship game with limited resources than it is to have everything HHS had last year.

 

So do me a favor, don't talk about "coaching" up players when talking about other schools if you don't know the entire story.

 

What perks does HHS have that others don't. Did I miss something?