Does an EPO keep him from buying the gun on Monday? When did they do his background check. What is the timing of events? When was EPO sought and when did he apply for gun ownership?

Does an EPO keep him from buying the gun on Monday? When did they do his background check. What is the timing of events? When was EPO sought and when did he apply for gun ownership?

 

My understanding is that it does not in Ky. At least that's what I thought I heard on the news. It would in Ohio though.

 

And even if it had stopped him from buying a gun from a dealer in Kentucky, a gun can be purchased very easily from a non-dealer without any background check being required.

Good Lord people are stupid, the place he bought the gun from (after he cleared an FBI background check) is getting hammered for selling him the gun.

Good Lord people are stupid, the place he bought the gun from (after he cleared an FBI background check) is getting hammered for selling him the gun.

 

Wow, that's too bad. That store didn't pull the trigger. Guns don't kill people, irresponsible people kill people.

 

My understanding is that it does not in Ky. At least that's what I thought I heard on the news. It would in Ohio though.

 

And even if it had stopped him from buying a gun from a dealer in Kentucky, a gun can be purchased very easily from a non-dealer without any background check being required.

 

Just go to your local flea market.

Good Lord people are stupid, the place he bought the gun from (after he cleared an FBI background check) is getting hammered for selling him the gun.

Not surprised. It's always the fault of the gun or the seller of the gun....never the criminal misuse of it.

Anyone heard an update on how she's doing?

Anyone heard an update on how she's doing?

 

Thought I heard she is going to be paralyzed in some capacity, bullets hit her spine.

 

Thought I heard she is going to be paralyzed in some capacity, bullets hit her spine.

 

That's awful. Prayers for her and the family.

A DVO (Domestic Violence Order) would have prevented the purchase of the gun. Rather i should say the legal purchase of the gun. This idiot likely would have purchased a gun through any means as his resolve was clear.

 

To clear things up EPO's are issued by police officers with the verbal authority of a judge. They are used when the judge is not available, such as the middle of the night. They carry the full force of the court and also mandate a hearing within a prescribed time. ( I think it's 14 days) The respondent is allowed at that hearing to dispute the facts and ask that the order be dismissed. They can also be issued by the judge themselves during court hours with a sworn affidavit from the petitioner. Same rules apply. The order is only effective when confirmation of service is provided by the court or a peace officer. Meaning the person who is ordered to stay away must know what the order is and must be given a copy.

 

A DVO is issued by the court after a hearing on the allegation has taken place and a judge has ruled if it is necessary for the order to remain in place. These orders can by put in place for 2 years without further hearings.

 

The EPO likely never makes it into the system to prevent a gun purchase due to its temporary nature and short term of effectiveness.

 

EPO & DVO can be very effective tools in preventing acts of domestic violence. Especially when consequences are explained by the judge. Unfortunately they are often used as tools to get someone in trouble or hurt another by using the law. I know lawyers who have as a routine asked for protective orders upon filing for divorce to give their client the upper hand in custody issues. What an order cannot do is stop a piece of garbage like this from doing what he was he'll bent on doing.

 

I saw his obituary in this mornings paper and it listed among his survivors ' his wife Alicia'. Almost made me sick.

Thought I heard she is going to be paralyzed in some capacity, bullets hit her spine.

 

WOW.

Thinking an EPO is going to prevent a deranged husband from going after his wife is like thinking taking a driver's license away from a drunk driver will keep him from driving drunk.

According to her brother, she was shot five times, with one bullet crushing her vertebrae from C3 to C7. It means there is a high likelihood she will be left a quadriplegic. However, that doesn't mean she couldn't improve her functioning to some degree, with lots of therapy and prayer.

Wow, that's too bad. That store didn't pull the trigger. Guns don't kill people, irresponsible people kill people.

 

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20130815/NEWS0103/308150102/Fort-Thomas-shooting-victim-paralyzed-says-she-still-winner-