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Snowden: Patriot Or Traitor?

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What Comparison Are You Making?

 

Boyce stated that he was "blowing the whistle" and righting wrongs by selling the secrets to the Soviets.

 

Are there similarities? First thing I thought of in this was the Falcon from the 70's.

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Boyce stated that he was "blowing the whistle" and righting wrongs by selling the secrets to the Soviets.

 

Are there similarities? First thing I thought of in this was the Falcon from the 70's.

 

Is there any evidence that he financially benefited from this? The means were totally different.

 

Latest I heard was Dick Cheney calling him a traitor and said he likely spied for China. :rolleyes:

 

And if the Soviets are willing to buy the information, that probably means it can and will lead up to someone getting killed or hurt.

 

Edward Snowden has made the distinction between someone like Bradley Manning and himself. He sifted through the intelligence and only released information that was intended to wake people up. He has not benefited in anyway.

Anyone who understood the mission of the NSA - and all foreign government certainly do - would understand what they could do with their capabilities. Snowden has created much more of a domestic political issue than a national security issue by confirm something that I posted could be problem many times here. He confirmed that that monitoring capability has been turned inwards on all of us.

 

Coward best defines it for me.

 

I am glad he exposed what he exposed, but to go and run to China and start blabbing things that he may or may not know to China media which is Gov't run makes me scratch my head. The more ane more I learn about him and what he is doing the more of a coward he seems to be.

 

It's one thing to expose what our gov't is doing when it comes to privacy etc. or lack of it. It's another thing to go run to China with the information.

There are great examples of civil disobedience, protesting and exposing unjust government practices throughout history.

 

Ghandi in South Africa and India

 

Mandela in South Africa

 

MLK here just to name a few.

 

Snowden (while he may think he does) does not belong in the same classification as these. The 3 I mentioned were willing to face the backlash of their actions. Snowden has fled to another country and continues to spout from hiding. Grade A coward.

There are great examples of civil disobedience, protesting and exposing unjust government practices throughout history.

 

Ghandi in South Africa and India

 

Mandela in South Africa

 

MLK here just to name a few.

 

Snowden (while he may think he does) does not belong in the same classification as these. The 3 I mentioned were willing to face the backlash of their actions. Snowden has fled to another country and continues to spout from hiding. Grade A coward.

 

The blind chinese man, Chen Guangcheng, went to the US Embassy after he escaped house arrest.

 

He was under house arrest because he protested the government on the way they treated their subjects -- from taxes to privacy.

 

Is he a coward?

 

"This is a predictable smear that I anticipated before going public, as the US media has a knee-jerk 'RED CHINA!' reaction to anything involving [Hong Kong] or the [People's Republic of China] and is intended to distract from the issue of US government misconduct," Snowden replied. "Ask yourself: if I were a Chinese spy, why wouldn't I have flown directly into Beijing? I could be living in a palace petting a phoenix by now."

 

This.

The blind chinese man, Chen Guangcheng, went to the US Embassy after he escaped house arrest.

 

He was under house arrest because he protested the government on the way they treated their subjects -- from taxes to privacy.

 

Is he a coward?

 

The blind Chinese guy didn't flee the country before he protested did he? The fact that you pointed out that he was under arrest illustrates that he was willing to face the consequences of his actions. This coward fled the country and then announced himself, big difference.

The blind Chinese guy didn't flee the country before he protested did he? The fact that you pointed out that he was under arrest illustrates that he was willing to face the consequences of his actions. This coward fled the country and then announced himself, big difference.

 

Seems to me like the US gov't and its MSM affiliates likes to sway stories to whatever will be in our gov'ts benefit.

 

Bottom line is he still fled. He didn't want to face the consequences, nor should he, when the Chinese gov't detained him. It was an injustice much like we would see happening to Edward Snowden. We wouldn't even be having this conversation if he didn't flee.

Traitor , weasel , coward .Throw the book at him

Traitor , weasel , coward .Throw the book at him
You are talking about Obama I would guess.. He definitely fits your description..

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