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Kentucky Drivers License - Homeland Security - Facial Recognition Database

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Federal govt probably has told the states that if they don't cooperate, the feds will refuse to provide some grant of some type to the state govt. All the more reason to demand lower federal income taxes. The feds take money from us and they use it as leverage against state govt to force state govt to enforce some fed policy that would never be enacted at the state govt level.

 

Federal highway funds always come to my mind.

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First of all, is it true? I just had mine renewed and if my pic was sent to Washington somewhere and reviewed and then ok'd...I got to tell you, it's the most efficient program the fed government runs because it took almost no time to do. Which leads me to believe it didn't happen.

 

Secondly, IF it is true, the only way they would ever be seeing my picture is if they are tracking my movements through the local burger joints at lunch time. Of course with the current administration in power, I wouldn't put it past them that this is EXACTLY what they might do with my picture. maybe I should start bringing my lunch from home more.:idunno:

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First of all, is it true? I just had mine renewed and if my pic was sent to Washington somewhere and reviewed and then ok'd...I got to tell you, it's the most efficient program the fed government runs because it took almost no time to do. Which leads me to believe it didn't happen.

 

Secondly, IF it is true, the only way they would ever be seeing my picture is if they are tracking my movements through the local burger joints at lunch time. Of course with the current administration in power, I wouldn't put it past them that this is EXACTLY what they might do with my picture. maybe I should start bringing my lunch from home more.:idunno:

 

I don't know if every county in KY is equipped with the updated system but in Boone County I believe it to be true. Mine was quick too. I am no expert here but I believe it is a computer based approval system that looks at points on your face, the angle of the photo, the lighting/contrast etc. and the computer makes an instant decision no different than a credit card transaction.

I don't know if every county in KY is equipped with the updated system but in Boone County I believe it to be true. Mine was quick too. I am no expert here but I believe it is a computer based approval system that looks at points on your face, the angle of the photo, the lighting/contrast etc. and the computer makes an instant decision no different than a credit card transaction.

No one else seems to have heard of this...hmmmn...maybe they just verify certain people, like maybe those that are on "The Watch List."

I'm leery of more power being invested into the security state. While this by itself won't have much of an effect on people's lives, I remain skeptical about its potential. Will the government be installing cameras to fully utilize the facial recognition features? Will people's movements be tracked, much like our electronic communications are? Will this information be used for non-security related issues? I realize that sounds like paranoia, but I think we ought to be aware of the power of new security measures, what limits are placed on the government, and how those two mesh. That this seems to have been implemented surreptitiously doesn't aid my comfort.
This.

Here is a related question:

 

Several cities have traffic cameras set up...not to give citations for speeding or running red lights but just to monitor traffic. Some of those record every license plate that drive by them along with a photo of the car. Is that a violation of privacy too?

Here is a related question:

 

Several cities have traffic cameras set up...not to give citations for speeding or running red lights but just to monitor traffic. Some of those record every license plate that drive by them along with a photo of the car. Is that a violation of privacy too?

 

I don't know that it would be unconstitutional considering they are public roadways, but I think there is a concern. Whenever I see these new cameras popping up I'm more suspicious than I am comforted.

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From the other side:

 

Fortunately for law enforcement, the feds and the locals have each others' back. Where the federal government has resources to expend on the underlying technology (the algorithms), the states have lots of data. And they are starting to share in a very big, albeit quiet, way. State and local officials are increasingly granting the federal government access to their registry of motor vehicles databases and, thanks to an FBI program announced to the public in August 2012, deploying their own powerful face recognition tools.

 

On August 16, 2012, Nextgov.com wrote:

Within weeks, police nationwide should be able to obtain free software for matching photos of unidentified suspects against the FBI’s biometric database of 12 million mug shots, according to an Office of the Director of National Intelligence agency.

 

The
FBI
and
Homeland Security Department
are experimenting with facial recognition to determine the real names of illegal immigrants, identify persons of interest in candid photos, and fulfill other law enforcement responsibilities. To make that happen, however, law enforcement agencies at every level of government must share images with compatible technology that they can afford, former FBI officials say.

 

So, the bureau is offering agencies some of the equipment at no cost.

 

The application accepts scanned images, photos from digital cameras or pictures saved as digital files. The tool then translates each copy into a new file that can be matched against images in NGI, or deposited there for others to search.

 

Face recognition databases and image sharing expanding rapidly, to include drivers' IDs | Privacy SOS

 

 

I don't have a problem with this. When I renewed my military ID card last year I noticed a difference with the type of picture taken. Renewed my drivers license earlier this month and the picture was ok.

Here is a related question:

 

Several cities have traffic cameras set up...not to give citations for speeding or running red lights but just to monitor traffic. Some of those record every license plate that drive by them along with a photo of the car. Is that a violation of privacy too?

 

Technically no. There is no expectation of 'privacy' in public.

 

Not justifying or agreeing. Just that if your in public and get picture snapped - its legal. Even if done by the regime.

Maybe this will happen when purchasing firearms.

As was mentioned, it helps capture criminals, if you are not doing anything wrong, then you don't have a reason to worry.

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