West Paducah, Columbine, the Amish schoolhouse in Pennsylvania ... to name just a few reasons why some people might be upset by the message this shirt sends.

Often standard procedure when this happens is to have the kid turn the shirt inside-out for the rest of the day. I suspect the kid's father may have been trying to make a point at the kid's expense. I also suspect this isn't the first time the school district has had a run-in with the kid and/or his father. Bottom line is some 1st/2nd Amendment rights don't get to enter the schoolhouse with the student.

What message does the shirt send in your opinion? You, and I'm sure others, are seeing the kid and/or the father as the problem, while others see the teacher and the school as the problem. I'm still not seeing were he broke any school code.

Is it possible he got arrested because he refused to comply with the order (as right or as wrong as that order may have been) and instead of a physical confrontation their policy is to call the po po?

 

What is a teacher to do if the kid simply refuses? Physical altercation?

West Paducah, Columbine, the Amish schoolhouse in Pennsylvania ... to name just a few reasons why some people might be upset by the message this shirt sends.

Often standard procedure when this happens is to have the kid turn the shirt inside-out for the rest of the day. I suspect the kid's father may have been trying to make a point at the kid's expense. I also suspect this isn't the first time the school district has had a run-in with the kid and/or his father. Bottom line is some 1st/2nd Amendment rights don't get to enter the schoolhouse with the student.

 

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I did think though that the reporter was "hot"! :sssh: :lol2:

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What message does the shirt send in your opinion? You, and I'm sure others, are seeing the kid and/or the father as the problem, while others see the teacher and the school as the problem. I'm still not seeing were he broke any school code.

Good golly, Molly, the teacher and the school ain't the problem! I posed this situation to a longtime Northern Kentucky public high school teacher. She said at her school, the disqualifying item on the shirt is the weapon, not "NRA." She said "NRA" alone probably would fly, but no weapons on shirts. That's a no-no. In the old days, kids in rural Illinois school districts actually brought their hunting rifles to school, put them in their lockers, then went deer hunting after school. Those days are long gone, unfortunately, because of Columbine, Paducah and numerous other school massacres.

 

Here's an updated version of the story:

 

http://www.oregonlive.com/today/index.ssf/2013/04/student_with_nra_t-shirt_back.html

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Why would a photo of any weapon set in the context of the 2nd amendment of our constitution be upsetting or even banned?

West Paducah, Columbine, the Amish schoolhouse in Pennsylvania ... to name just a few reasons why some people might be upset by the message this shirt sends.

What message is being sent? In fact the type of weapon on the shirt wasn't the type used in any of those shootings. Seriously WHAT MESSAGE do think this is sending?

By almost any measure stifling speech is a bad idea.

What message is being sent? In fact the type of weapon on the shirt wasn't the type used in any of those shootings. Seriously WHAT MESSAGE do think this is sending?

I think part of the message is a challenge to school authority: 2nd Amendment uber alles.

 

Do you think such a statement shirt would be allowed at CovCath, NewCath, St. Henry? Or at Ryle, where we're coming up on the 19th anniversary of the Clay Shrout incident? The real issue isn't whether this shirt meets "code" ... it's whether it meets "common sense."

 

Equally disturbing in the West Virginia case is that several parents in the community have decided now to take their 2nd Amendment fight into the middle school classroom. A school should never be used for that purpose. Never. If they don't like the rules, then bring them up at the next school board meeting. Don't turn 12-year-old kids into a political statement.

I think part of the message is a challenge to school authority. Do you think such a statement shirt would be allowed at CovCath, NewCath, St. Henry? Or at Ryle, where we're coming up on the 19th anniversary of the Clay Shrout incident? The real issue isn't whether this shirt meets "code" ... it's whether it meets "common sense."

 

Equally disturbing in the West Virginia case is that several parents in the community have decided now to take their 2nd Amendment fight into the middle school classroom. A school should never be used for that purpose.

 

I generally want to agree with you about a school not being used for political purposes, then again, the school crossed that line when it told the kid he couldn't wear the shirt. Schools are their own worse enemy when they do such stupid things.

By almost any measure stifling speech is a bad idea.

 

That is especially true in an educational enviroment, where kids are supposed to be taught to consider various view points on issues and critically think about issues before forming opinions.

The dress code looks to be very similar to the one we use at my school. I haven't seen the video or read the articles posted, but I don't feel that a photo of a gun depicts violence, so I agree with the father that the shirt does not violate the dress code. If the shirt showed a gun aimed at someone's head, that would be a different story.

By almost any measure stifling speech is a bad idea.

 

In general, I agree, but in a school setting, I feel differently.

His Dad describing the gun that was displayed as a "hunting rifle" would seem to be a stretch......maybe if you are hunting terrorists