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Ohio teens videotape themselves after raping a 16 yr old

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Guilty. They got off easy, but the consolation is that this will follow them for the rest of their lives. Their lives as they knew them are ruined.

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Too bad that the coach that tried to make it all go away will still be in charge of young men next year.
Wait for the grand jury.

 

Also read where two teenage girls were arrested today (including a cousin of one of these two boys) after making death threats to the victim.

Guilty. They got off easy, but the consolation is that this will follow them for the rest of their lives. Their lives as they knew them are ruined.

 

Agreed...3-5 years would have been more appropriate. I read where the AG will be going after the student gossips and fools who videotaped their thoughts on the matter supporting the perps and degrading the victim. They should make examples out of all of them.

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Agreed...3-5 years would have been more appropriate. I read where the AG will be going after the student gossips and fools who videotaped their thoughts on the matter supporting the perps and degrading the victim. They should make examples out of all of them.
Videotaping yourself being an idiot isn't a crime. But in about 4 weeks the grand jury will look into all matters concerning this, there were also several people, including coaches, who refused to cooperate, they can't do that with a grand jury. I see at least one coaching vacancy coming soon.

I feel so bad for everyone involved. This poor girl and her family finding out what happened in the manner they found out is horrendous. I feel bad for the boys too. To grow up in a place where they actually didn't think their actions were wrong is sad.

This is a wake up call to the whole community, much the way that Sandusky's trial was to Happy Valley. That has to be a very tough pill to swallow. You go through your day-to-day thinking that, "It may not be perfect here, but it's no worse than anywhere else," and then this terrible thing happens. The adults stop acting like adults and the national exposure forces you to step back and take a look in horror at what you've allowed yourselves to become. That has to be extremely sobering.

This is a wake up call to the whole community, much the way that Sandusky's trial was to Happy Valley. That has to be a very tough pill to swallow. You go through your day-to-day thinking that, "It may not be perfect here, but it's no worse than anywhere else," and then this terrible thing happens. The adults stop acting like adults and the national exposure forces you to step back and take a look in horror at what you've allowed yourselves to become. That has to be extremely sobering.

 

I am curious to see what all the fall out is over this, I would like to give the adults and town the benefit of the doubt as they did not realize this kind of thing was going on at least not to the extent and pre-meditated like it turned out, very sad for all involved. Hopefully it is a wake up call to parents and kids everywhere.:irked:

This is a wake up call to the whole community, much the way that Sandusky's trial was to Happy Valley. That has to be a very tough pill to swallow. You go through your day-to-day thinking that, "It may not be perfect here, but it's no worse than anywhere else," and then this terrible thing happens. The adults stop acting like adults and the national exposure forces you to step back and take a look in horror at what you've allowed yourselves to become. That has to be extremely sobering.

 

I think it should be a wake-up call to everyone. A lot of things at play here and a lot of things that "allowed" this to happen are present in every community and high school. I was definitely roiled by comments like this when I was younger, but high schoolers/teenagers are not mature and emotionally intelligent enough to deal with a lot of things independently. When that autonomy gets mixed with the group mentality of "being cool" and this runaway machismo, the outcomes are going to be bad.

 

I can think of more than a few occasions in my youth where the "cool" guys or group were up to something everyone knew shouldn't be done - whether it be drinking or trespassing or what have you - and most people just went along out of fear of being a pariah or even escalated it to prove themselves. Considering how prevalent sexual assault and rape are, this Stuebenville case is awful, but not entirely shocking. I don't believe these guys set out that night to rape a girl, but when they had the opportunity to take advantage of a drunk girl they couldn't let it slide and no one saw fit to intervene on behalf of the girl.

 

When I watched that video of the kid making jokes about it I couldn't help but think he didn't fully understand the implications of what he was saying, but he knew it was getting a big laugh so he carried on. I believe on any given day everyone involved would have said that the actions described were wrong, inexcusable, and punishable. But, in that setting they were too lost in the maze of adolescent socialization to do that right thing, whether they were blinded to morality or too afraid to break ranks and risk their "coolness." How long would that video have been if no one laughed and someone said "not cool man"? I think it's a lesson about the effects of group behavior and fitting in that should be pounded into every teenager because this case gives them a very visceral example of what it can lead to.

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