No offense to the person you spoke with, but as I understand it, the SEEK formula is what is used to determined how much per student the State funds. The SEEK formula calculated amount is multiplied by the ADA (average daily attendance) to determine the gross amount paid by the state. In other words, there isn't SEEK money and ADA money. Rather they both are factors that work together to determine the amount paid by the state to a school district.

 

The local taxes do stay with the school district even if a student leaves the district to attend another school, as the local taxes are based on property values within the school district (so much per $1,000 of valuation); not on attendance numbers. So if a school district with a lot of local tax revenues has a lot of students attend other schools, it would be windfall for that school district, as it would continue to receive the local tax revenue but would not have the expense of educating those students. Keep in mind however, that when a school district has high local tax revenues, the SEEK formula cuts back the state dollars paid to that district.

 

Don't be under the impression that schools that have high local tax revenues are in much better financial shape than those that don't. In fact the whole purpose of the lawsuit filed years ago by Jack Moreland, then the super at Dayton, was to stop that from happening. Back then, the state pretty much gave each district the same amount per student. For purposes of discussion, we'll say every school district got $2,000 per student. Some districts however were able to get their taxpayers to pay high local taxes. If for example, Fort Thomas was able to generate another $2,000 per student in local taxes, the Fort Thomas district would have $4,000 to spend per student and a district that couldn't get support for any local taxes would only have $2,000. The court system stuck down that financing model because the court said it violate the Ky Constitution's requirement that the public schools be equitably and adequately funded.

 

As a result, the Kentucky Educational Reform Act was passed by the General Assembly and the SEEK formula was put in place. Under the SEEK formula (and I'm generalizing here, as the formula is pretty complicated), a school district that receives a lot of local tax revenue receives less state revenues in an attempt to keep the total amount (from both state and local taxes) roughly the same for every student in Ky.

 

Keep bringing the good info LN! Let's get rid of this misperception that independents have some inherent advantage over county schools.

I communicated with someone who knows more about the subject than I do. They explained to me that every district is given an amount of Seek and ADA money per student. Most district will let the ADA money transfer with the student who pays tuition, however, they will keep the seek money. The charged tuition is usually to make up for the Seek money lost when the student comes to the new district. Small independent district's whose local inhabitants vote on extra local taxes for their district receive less Seek money, and therefore, can afford to charge much less on their overall tuition to allow a student to come to their district. Most public County Schools make their tuition the total amount of their Seek and ADA money, which is usually combined to somewhere between $5800 and $7000. Therefore, due to the generosity of their local tax bases, the two independent school districts that we have been discussing are able to charge a much lower tuition.

 

Beechwood tuition for a Villa Hills resident - $3,400

 

Dixie Heights tuition for a Ft. Mitchell resident - $400

 

How does the independent district have an advantage?

Beechwood tuition for a Villa Hills resident - $3,400

 

Dixie Heights tuition for a Ft. Mitchell resident - $400

 

How does the independent district have an advantage?

 

Over Dixie, no. Check out the same lets say for a Campbell County, or at worse a district that doesn't even take tuition students with their policy. There is nothing wrong with taking advantage of the differences, but the differences exist. As far as LN's post go, I said in my post that those districts get less Seek money from the state, but the generosity of their local tax payers more than makes up for it, still giving them an existing advantage over an area where the inhabitants won't vote in extra taxes. There is nothing wrong with using it, but it does exist.

See highlights above.

I agree with almost everything you said in this post. As I have said, this advantage exist in many levels, and many of them you just mentioned. As seen by their number of transfers, very few seem to be concerned with going to a small school in this area.

For clarification purposes, Lane and Hamilton are both Ft. Mitchell residents.

 

 

Hamilton moved just for sports.

Over Dixie, no. Check out the same lets say for a Campbell County, or at worse a district that doesn't even take tuition students with their policy. There is nothing wrong with taking advantage of the differences, but the differences exist. As far as LN's post go, I said in my post that those districts get less Seek money from the state, but the generosity of their local tax payers more than makes up for it, still giving them an existing advantage over an area where the inhabitants won't vote in extra taxes. There is nothing wrong with using it, but it does exist.

 

That is by that districts own choice and gives no grounds for anyone to say an independent has an advantage.

 

That is by that districts own choice and gives no grounds for anyone to say an independent has an advantage.

 

You keep going back to this position, but this statement is terribly flawed.

I pulled two from Yaegle's first championship off the top of my head. Excuse me, add Partin from Earlanger to that list. I will venture to say that it would be tough to find a Beechwood team that hasn't had an out of district player playing on it since 1990, which is good for them.

 

I would put at the late 1990's but that still doesn't account for their success in the almost two decades before that. I just want to make sure people realize that out of district players or not, Beechwood would still have been a state powerhouse.

You keep going back to this position, but this statement is terribly flawed.

 

VOR just dooesn't get it. He does not seem to have a basic understanding of closed enrollment districts versus open enrollment districts. He does not understand that his institution serves a community with a six figure per capita income. He does not understand how a quarter of a million people passing his door every day translates into advantage. He does understand that his district has the flexibility and freedom to make decisions that larger districts do not have. He does not understand that while mommy and daddy are wrinting checks for their kids so they train and be coached privately, our kids are working for living saving money for their futures.

 

VOR and the rest of the BW community just have a different set of experiances and background. There is not going to be any meeting of minds here.

That is by that districts own choice and gives no grounds for anyone to say an independent has an advantage.

 

I would say that some districts create a disadvantage for themselves.

Hamilton moved just for sports.

 

Freedom of choice and someone could not retain him where he was. Your point?

VOR just dooesn't get it. He does not seem to have a basic understanding of closed enrollment districts versus open enrollment districts. He does not understand that his institution serves a community with a six figure per capita income. He does not understand how a quarter of a million people passing his door every day translates into advantage. He does understand that his district has the flexibility and freedom to make decisions that larger districts do not have. He does not understand that while mommy and daddy are wrinting checks for their kids so they train and be coached privately, our kids are working for living saving money for their futures.

 

VOR and the rest of the BW community just have a different set of experiances and background. There is not going to be any meeting of minds here.

 

6 figure per capita income???? They must be going gangbusters because a couple years back the medium per capita household income for Ft Mitchell was half that. Makes me wonder about all your other claims.

You keep going back to this position, but this statement is terribly flawed.

How so? The only way a school can have boundaries is if they self-impose them. You can't limit your enrollment then complain because someone else does not.

VOR just dooesn't get it. He does not seem to have a basic understanding of closed enrollment districts versus open enrollment districts. He does not understand that his institution serves a community with a six figure per capita income. He does not understand how a quarter of a million people passing his door every day translates into advantage. He does understand that his district has the flexibility and freedom to make decisions that larger districts do not have. He does not understand that while mommy and daddy are wrinting checks for their kids so they train and be coached privately, our kids are working for living saving money for their futures.

 

VOR and the rest of the BW community just have a different set of experiances and background. There is not going to be any meeting of minds here.

 

Nice, distorted stereotype of Beechwood. My dad always told me that if you do not like the situation you are in, quit whining and do something about it. You have no clue at all as to the backgrounds of the BW community. You need to deal with what is bugging you and move on. There will be transfers to Beechwood for some time to come for a variety of reasons. So save all of your posts and batch enter them anytime a young person transfers to Beechwood. That will make it easier on you.

6 figure per capita income???? They must be going gangbusters because a couple years back the medium per capita household income for Ft Mitchell was half that. Makes me wonder about all your other claims.

 

Don't you know? We were all given six figure salaries by BW to recruit for Coach Rash and build guest houses for all of the transfers coming in. My wife and I quit our full time jobs and my oldest daughter quit her part time job. I love this life in Fort Mitchell. Gotta go now. The pool boy wants his money.