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Everybody still think the 4 for 1 trade was a good one for the Reds?

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EZ Living

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Let's take a look at the 2 major players in the Reds and Padres trade and see if we still feel the Reds got the better end of the deal. I know there are other factors that went into the trade but just from a numbers standpoint this is interesting.

 

Latos 1-2 IP 28.2 H 35 R 19 ER 19 HR 4 BB 10 K 18 era 5.97 Avg .307

Volquez 0-2 IP 37.0 H 25 R 13 ER 12 HR 2 BB 18 K 33 era 2.92 Avg .191

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Let's take a look at the 2 major players in the Reds and Padres trade and see if we still feel the Reds got the better end of the deal. I know there are other factors that went into the trade but just from a numbers standpoint this is interesting.

 

Latos 1-2 IP 28.2 H 35 R 19 ER 19 HR 4 BB 10 K 18 era 5.97 Avg .307

Volquez 0-2 IP 37.0 H 25 R 13 ER 12 HR 2 BB 18 K 33 era 2.92 Avg .191

For one thing, it's only May 3 ... it's a long season.

 

Alonso is no great loss. Grandal might turn out to be a good player, but the Reds prefer Mesoraco, even if Dusty still feels like Hanigan deserves more playing time. I would've held on to Volquez if I could have, but he had obviously worn out his welcome with some in the Reds' organization.

 

Latos is a talented young pitcher that has had two good seasons in the majors. There is no reason to make a judgment on him based on a handful of starts in April.

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Latos career March/April 2-8 5.73 ERA

Latos career May-October 26-23 3.13 ERA

 

Let's hope these numbers continue. He is always bad in April.

I'm glad they did the deal. I couldn't stand to watch Volquez roll his fat butt out there every 5 days and walk guys left and right.

gametime

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One of the main gripes from the masses about the trade was letting go Alonso when there was "no way they were keeping Votto past 2013". So much for that one...

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One of the main gripes from the masses about the trade was letting go Alonso when there was "no way they were keeping Votto past 2013". So much for that one...

 

I can agree with this statement, but doesnt the actions of the trade force the other. By trading Alonso, didn't they have to resign Votto? Likewise, if they had kept Alonso, didnt they have to either find a place for him to play, or trade Votto?

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I can agree with this statement, but doesnt the actions of the trade force the other. By trading Alonso, didn't they have to resign Votto? Likewise, if they had kept Alonso, didnt they have to either find a place for him to play, or trade Votto?

 

Not at all.

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I can agree with this statement, but doesnt the actions of the trade force the other. By trading Alonso, didn't they have to resign Votto? Likewise, if they had kept Alonso, didnt they have to either find a place for him to play, or trade Votto?

 

So your logic is because they traded Alonso they HAD to spend a quarter billion on Votto? 1+1=94?

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I know its early, but I'm not liking it so far. While Volquez is dealing, I think Latos will rebound as the season goes on, but he has looked pretty bad so far.

nkufan23

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Volquez was never going to be successful in Cincy, he needed a change of scenery...I believe he was starting to feel too much pressure after making the All-Star team and then getting injured and never getting it going again...The fans in Cincy with it being small market jumped on his bandwagon to big after the AS appearance and then after injury when he couldn't return to form the fans and media got to him I believe...He has talent, probably more so than Latos imo but his Cincy welcome was worn out and he didn't live up to the fans expectations especially after Hamilton evolved into an MVP caliber player...All of this plus being in a pitchers park has helped his case...

 

Latos was one of the more promising young pitchers in the game coming from SD...He was very successful out there and getting traded for 4 players including a former AS in Volquez I feel like he is putting a little too much pressure on him self...Cincinnati is a baseball town and he knows it and may be pressing a little to hard...People also underestimate the fact that the HR's he has been giving up in GABP aren't HR's in many other parks and that could be messing with his head a bit as well, it is known he is a bit of a headcase anyways...Another factor that I have seen in watching his games this year has been the strike zone I honestly feel like he has been squeezed in tight situations almost all year and had it come back to bite him...I haven't seen EV pitch much this year so he probably has this problem as well as almost all pitchers do, but I'm not sure Latos has the composure to get through situations like that in the same way that EV wasn't able to in Cincy...IMO the Home Plate Umps this year though have been below average in almost every Reds game I have watched, very inconsistent from Batter to Batter...

 

I believe that Alonso could've been a serviceable LF in Cincy but he never would have got the chance...The Reds front office puts young players on a very short leash, Alonso and Francisco fit that mold and are both players that are as good as anyone on the Reds bench or in LF/3B...Grandal I believe could have AS potential and reminds me a bit of Santana from Cleveland...Volquez imo will make a couple more AS games in SD and will blossom into a consistent guy at there and be there ACE for many years...Boxberger has struggled a bit so far since leaving the Reds farm system and imo his ceiling is set up man so I'm not concerned to much about him...

 

All this being said the Reds should have been able to snag Latos by only giving up Volquez, Alonso and Boxberger...Grandal could've been packaged with another one of the Reds Minor Leaguers from a deep talent pool to snag a good LFer...

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