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Everybody still think the 4 for 1 trade was a good one for the Reds?

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I believe that Alonso could've been a serviceable LF in Cincy
No ... his defense was a train wreck. And his bat is overrated.

 

All this being said the Reds should have been able to snag Latos by only giving up Volquez, Alonso and Boxberger...Grandal could've been packaged with another one of the Reds Minor Leaguers from a deep talent pool to snag a good LFer...
And what makes you think those deals could've been accomplished? You have to give up something to get something. The Padres weren't just going to give Latos away.
No ... his defense was a train wreck. And his bat is overrated.

 

And what makes you think those deals could've been accomplished? You have to give up something to get something. The Padres weren't just going to give Latos away.

 

For one the Padres arent dumb they knew they were getting a former AS in EV to replace Latos...And I wouldnt put it past them that they believed with a change of scenery, a bigger ballpark and patience they were getting a pitcher that could be better than Latos...They also knew they wanted Alonso for First so that they could trade Rizzo for even more chips, they are rebuilding...They just traded one of theor best RP to the Angels for two of their better prospects and are now considering trading Hudson and Bartlett...

Soto has a worse than 3-1 K-BB ratio in the minors ... hardly impressive.

 

Lutz is a 23-year-old guy and still in A ball ... also hardly impressive.

Lutz is very impressive he didnt even start playing baseball till his mid teens amd he held his own vs the Reds pitching in the futures game...Look for him to advance rather quickly now that he has his feet under him and no longer is a reds project...

EV has pitched 4 out of 5 games at pitcher-friendly Petco. In his one away game he pitched 5 and gave up 4 ERs.

Lutz is very impressive he didnt even start playing baseball till his mid teens amd he held his own vs the Reds pitching in the futures game...Look for him to advance rather quickly now that he has his feet under him and no longer is a reds project...
He's 23 and in A ball ... not a future star.

I think Alonso is a solid bat but he's not the type of hitter you build a lineup around.

 

My only concern with the trade was getting rid of Volquez. He obviously had some issues with the organization (and vice versa) but the guy has electric stuff.

EV is not better than Latos Nkufan.

 

I never said he was I said the Padres think that he could be, and I think in time he could be as well. He would've never been better than Latos had he stayed in Cincy but now with a fresh start it wouldn't surprise me if he plays better in SD than Latos does in Cincy. Also imo EV has slightly better stuff than Latos, he is electric. I have seen to many Reds trades not work out so I will say that EV finishes with a better Career than Latos . EV has shown a consistent K rate in his career due to his velocity and steady stuff, while Latos has slowly been declining in this category. imo both are head cases as well which doesn't fair well for either one of them...

I never said he was I said the Padres think that he could be, and I think in time he could be as well. He would've never been better than Latos had he stayed in Cincy but now with a fresh start it wouldn't surprise me if he plays better in SD than Latos does in Cincy. Also imo EV has slightly better stuff than Latos, he is electric. I have seen to many Reds trades not work out so I will say that EV finishes with a better Career than Latos . EV has shown a consistent K rate in his career due to his velocity and steady stuff, while Latos has slowly been declining in this category. imo both are head cases as well which doesn't fair well for either one of them...

 

Volquez k/9 has gone down 3 years in a row. Latos k/9 is 8.5 for career and Volquez is 8.6. Latos career ERA is a point lower than Volquez. Volquez walks double the amount of guys Latos does as well. You take Edinson, I will take Latos all day and twice on Sundays. Don't let 1 month of starts cloud you judgement of Latos. He is a stud.

Volquez k/9 has gone down 3 years in a row. Latos k/9 is 8.5 for career and Volquez is 8.6. Latos career ERA is a point lower than Volquez. Volquez walks double the amount of guys Latos does as well. You take Edinson, I will take Latos all day and twice on Sundays. Don't let 1 month of starts cloud you judgement of Latos. He is a stud.

 

I like Latos, im just saying 2-3 years ago most everybody agreed that EV was a stud as welll and his is still young with time to turn it around...

Volquez k/9 has gone down 3 years in a row. Latos k/9 is 8.5 for career and Volquez is 8.6. Latos career ERA is a point lower than Volquez. Volquez walks double the amount of guys Latos does as well. You take Edinson, I will take Latos all day and twice on Sundays. Don't let 1 month of starts cloud you judgement of Latos. He is a stud.

Volquez K rate has slighlty gone down while I think Latos has gone down more rapidly...not that those stats matter ks arent everything but in Gabp they are nice...also Volquez is returning from injury which isnt always easy and Latos is young with no reason to delcine in stuff as he has always been healthy...

Volquez K rate has slighlty gone down while I think Latos has gone down more rapidly...not that those stats matter ks arent everything but in Gabp they are nice...also Volquez is returning from injury which isnt always easy and Latos is young with no reason to delcine in stuff as he has always been healthy...

 

Nothing is wrong with his stuff. He has hit 95 and 96 all year. Just because his k/9 is way off so far this year. It will be up by the end of the year.

In sports, you get paid for what you did "last year". Volqy wasn't doing it at all in Cincinnati last year...and wasn't really the two previous years either. I'm still okay with the deal.

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