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Whoa! I had not heard the details of how the game went. I can't figure Lyon County out. Their schedule has been very soft, they lose to Livingston Central like that, then they come back completely composed to play one of the best teams in the region a close game.

I don't know the details. What happened? I'm assuming you're a Lyon County person?

I've never paid attention but do you hang banners for being region runner-up in the All-A? If that's the norm, do you hang the banner if you're Dawson Springs even though your tournament record was 0-1? Low blow I know but it really did cross my mind. Regardless of what the reasoning was the 2nd Region All-A and the Tri-County Tournament are both a joke now.

The Livingston loss really is a head-scratcher

I'm not surprised by the Madisonville-North Hopkins and Lyon County score. Both teams like low-scoring half-court basketball. I did expect it to be more like 8-10 points for Madisonville's favor but I'm not surprised by the low-scoring, close game. Hopkins County Central and Webster County did surprise me. I expected Hopkins Central to play them closer than the first game and honestly gave them about a 30% chance of winning a close game, but to win by 21 was a huge shock. I doubt that it was because of them looking ahead to Henderson County because Hopkins County Central is a rival game too. My guess is they struggled against the full court pressure now that they are having to figure out the point guard position again.

Crofton Elementary is a feeder school for Christian County.

Sebree's mother works at Christian County is the reason he was cleared immediately.

So you're saying Union County could beat Webster County or Henderson County to prevent them from gettin to the region tournament? By could I mean you believe it is likely?

I have a feeling attendance numbers will go down. I really wish girls basketball had the drawing power that boys basketball does so they could use Lexington or Louisville instead for a more central location. If only Campbellsville or Lindsey Wilson were bigger universities with bigger arenas. That would be as close to centrally located as you could get.

Like I said in the other thread, that must have changed in the last week or she must be using someone else's address because when the ruling was reversed she was still living in Christian County's district. That is why she was ruled ineligible from the beginning.

She must have moved in the last week because when the ruling was reversed she was still living in Christian County's district. That was the grounds for her being ruled ineligible to begin with.

I know this all too well but I hoped it wasn't the case in this situation. This is just sickening. Things like this make it hard to stand behind the KHSAA on any infractions handed down. Call their bluff and stand up for the other 200+ schools in the KHSAA. This is not right!

That is why I said I understand her being eligible her sophomore season at University Heights. I also could understand her being eligible if she chose to go back to Christian County. The fact that she lives in Christian County's district and chose to transfer to Hopkinsville as a junior should make her ineligible but apparently if you threaten to sue that doesn't matter. Nice job KHSAA! Way to display the integrity that you expect from everyone else! You're giving me a great teaching tool for my daughter. When you don't get your way, threaten with a lawsuit!

That's because Coach Haile runs his program with class. I could understand letting her resume her starting position after returning from an injury. Now giving a starting position or even playing time period to a kid so early without participating in practice until the week of is absurd. What does that tell the rest of your players? Everything you have done to earn your spot to this point does not matter because she is better than you? If she earned the spot over time I understand. Playing time and starting especially should be earned not given.

The Graves County thread on the boys side got me to thinking about this story again. I live in Christian County and know most of the details surrounding this situation. I know that she lives in Christian County's district, not Hopkinsville's. I know that she played for Christian County as a freshman and University Heights as a sophomore. I can understand how she became eligible to play for University Heights but I cannot understand how she is eligible to play for Hopkinsville when she still lives in Christian County's district. And for those paying attention she is the 2nd University Heights transfer to become eligible to play for Hopkinsville this season. I don't understand how the KHSAA can ignore the rules in this situation and selectively enforce the rules when it's convenient. I would love to hear the rationale for why she is all of a sudden cleared to play. I would also love to hear the coach's explanation to the parents after this kid became a starter with less than 1 week of practice time.

If the KHSAA isn't going to have more consistent enforcement of the transfer rules then they might as well not even exist. Before we stand and applaude the KHSAA for catching Graves County with their hand in the cookie jar, lets think about all of the hairy stuff that still goes on while the KHSAA simply looks the other way.

So much more of this goes on than what you hear about. The KHSAA is sporadic at best enforcing transfer rules. This punishment comes down right after a girl in our district was cleared despite being on her 3rd high school in 3 years without a single change of address. Said player starts out at Christian County where they are supposed to go and plays their freshman year, transfers and plays at University Heights as a sophomore, and now is playing for Hopkinsville as a junior. She was declared ineligible initially but the ruling was changed about a week ago.

I also heard that the really good sophomore they had is no longer on the team either. Is that true?

The reason I said that is because she hasn't performed like I expected her to this season and I didn't feel like her presence would have changed that game from a 14 point loss to a win. I could be wrong. What is wrong with her anyway? I heard it was her knee again but that person wasn't sure either.

As much as I love Kentucky and Coach Mitchell, she is above that. If she came it could have changed the face of that program but she is the elite of the elite. Notre Dame or UCONN is where she belonged.

I saw several discrepencies in these rankings. Just an example Bowling Green ranked 2 spots below Hopkinsville after beating Hopkinsville at Hopkinsville before Bowling Green added their football players.

Please give me your feedback if you agree or disagree so I can be sure to have the most accurate rankings available each time they are updated.

I have been helping JesseJames with the 2nd region but I will be conducting a solo mission for the remainder of the season. I will also post stat leaders for the region in another thread. There was a little movement but the race for region champion still looks to be between a handful of teams. #1 Madisonville-North Hopkins (14-2, 7-0) UP 1 The Lady Maroons continue their dominance over region foes. I have hesitated to put them ahead of Henderson County to this point but I expect them to walk away from that January 22nd matchup with a victory. Adarian Gray continues to fill up the scorebook, Molly Stone continues to pull down boards, and the Lady Maroon defense continues to stifle opponents. #2 Henderson County (8-6, 2-0) DOWN 1 The Lady Colonels have been without Alisha Owens for the past 2 games and have taken hard losses to Daviess County and Lincoln County. Even though Owens was out, I still believe those two teams would have been too much for the Lady Colonels. This just isn't the same Henderson County team that we are used to seeing, but they are still very good. #3 Hopkinsville (11-8, 7-2) SAME The Lady Tigers were penciled in to fall in these rankings until their prayers were answered by the KHSAA with the release of Janiya Davis. Her first game was a big one with 13 points, 8 rebounds and 4 blocks against crosstown rival Christian County. Her eligibility makes this big team and even bigger team that opponents will struggle to matchup with in the frontcourt. #4 Webster County (13-6, 4-2) SAME The Lady Trojans were penciled in to move up to 3rd in my rankings, even with Janiya Davis becoming eligible, until they lost sophomore point guard Kelsey Payne for the season to a knee injury. Even without her the Lady Trojans will be a tough out come tournament time. Especially if freshman Karlie Keeney continues to emerge as the team's best player. If you want to beat them you will have to match their physical play and hustle. #5 Hopkins County Central (11-10, 6-2) UP 1 The Lady Storm weathered a tough schedule to open the season and even recorded a very impressive win over 3rd region power Daviess County. The beatdowns they suffered from Madisonville-North Hopkins and Webster County appear to be in the rearview mirror as they have started to hit their stride lately. The late-blooming Lady Storm will be a team others will want to avoid come tournament time. #6 Lyon County (12-2, 10-0) DOWN 1 Despite being undefeated in region play, the Lady Lyons have yet to play a team ranked higher than 9th in these rankings. Their best region win continues to be the 2 close games they played with district rival Crittenden County, who was brutally beaten by 3 teams ranked just ahead of Lyon County (Hopkinsville, Webster County, Hopkins County Central). If they want to move into my top 5 then they must prove to be a contender when they face a top 5 opponent. #7 Christian County (8-10, 4-3) SAME I was optimistic for the Lady Colonels after their impressive week at Hopkins County Central's tournament, but they have been marginal at best since then. I think this is where the region rankings really start to separate between realistic contenders and those wishing on a star. The Lady Colonels could be a force to deal with in future seasons with all of their young talent but I can't see them climbing any higher than 7th in the region this season. #8 Union County (8-10, 3-3) SAME The Bravettes have yet to fill the void left by All-Region forward Mikayla Thompson. True to their tradition, the Bravettes play hard and play smart but it doesn't look like it will be enough to overtake Henderson County or Webster County in their district. This will be the best team to not make the region tournament yet again. #9 Crittenden County (8-10, 6-6) SAME The Lady Rockets will be the beneficiary of a favorable district come tournament time but expect them to be 1 and done in the 2nd region tournament. Junior Cassidy Moss has been a force with her 18 pts/gm and 9.6 reb/gm numbers, but the Lady Rockets have yet to find someone to be that 2nd scorer. #10 University Heights (6-13, 4-4) SAME The Lady Blazers have really struggled lately, going 2-7 since our last rankings. They can take the #9 position with a win over Crittenden County in their "All-A" matchup but don't expect them to climb much higher than that. #11 Caldwell County (2-15, 2-9) UP 1 The Lady Tigers have gone from winless to picking up two confidence wins over #12 Livingston Central and #13 Dawson Springs. This young team is improving each game just as I expected but will not challenge Madisonville-North Hopkins or Hopkins County Central for the district. #12 Livingston Central (3-10, 2-7) DOWN 1 The Lady Cardinals have only recorded 2 region wins, both of which were against #14 Trigg County. Sophomore Tabby Padon continues to have a big year but it won't be enough to rise above Lyon County or Crittenden County in the district. #13 Dawson Springs (8-8, 2-7) SAME The Lady Panthers continue to pile up wins from other small schools in Western Kentucky but continue to struggle against region competition. The game against Livingston Central tomorrow in the "All-A" should be a competitive matchup. #14 Trigg County (7-10, 0-7)/Fort Campbell (2-12, 0-7) The Lady Cats have started to pile up some victories since our last rankings but they still have yet to record a region win. It has been much the same for the Lady Falcons of Fort Campbell. January 21st and February 18th will be huge games for both teams as both look to get their first region victory.

What changed from the time she was ruled ineligible to get her cleared?

It was me and I said I had heard that from someone close to one of the programs. Laugh all you want but the comment was made.