January 18, 201214 yr Author That's the first thing I thought of. This leads me to believe that Manning's on his way out and they already have somebody in mind to coach Luck. I agree.
January 18, 201214 yr Author I felt that when the Polian's were let go, so was Peyton. The writing on the wall says the Manning regime is done and the Luck regime is starting from the front office to the players.
January 18, 201214 yr That's the first thing I thought of. This leads me to believe that Manning's on his way out and they already have somebody in mind to coach Luck. I really do think Tressel will be considered, but the new GM is from Philly, correct? How about Marty Mornhewig (sp?)?
January 18, 201214 yr Because he was a terrible coach. That was obvious even when Peyton was playing and they were winning games. Getting rid of Caldwell is certainly one positive the Colts can take from Peyton's injury. I think Peyton was the OC and the D was mostly playing with a lead. I'm not sure what Caldwell did, he always looked confused to me.
January 18, 201214 yr I think Peyton was the OC and the D was mostly playing with a lead. I'm not sure what Caldwell did, he always looked confused to me. He didn't have to do much when Peyton was playing. When he was required to do something or make a decision, I agree with you, he seemed confused. I believe I could have went 24-8 just like Caldwell. That team ran itself with Manning under center.
January 18, 201214 yr This has been my favorite piece of "news" today. Rob Lowe says Peyton Manning will retire.
January 18, 201214 yr ^ That's the kind of stuff that happens when Wikipedia goes down.:laugh: :laugh: People are lost without it and now turning to Rob Lowe for their facts.
January 19, 201214 yr The writing on the wall says the Manning regime is done and the Luck regime is starting from the front office to the players. Hard to disagree with that.
January 19, 201214 yr You hope he retires to salvage his legacy? The guy was still playing as one of the top 5 QB's in the league before his injury, it was not like his play had a big decline. If he is healthy, then NO WAY he should retire. If healthy he is probably still at worst a top 10 QB. I have never understood why people think someone should retire to protect their legacy? If a guy can still play, then they should still play. Even if its not at the top level they use to be at. It's easy for us to say a guy should retire, because we never had the chance to decide when we stopped playing. All of us on here had to stop playing because we had no choice, we just were not good enough to play in the pros. I know I would have a very hard time to decide to stop playing a sport I love. Protecting your legacy is overrated. People start playing the game for the love the game, and if they can still produce even if its not at the same level and protect theirselves then no reason to give it up. You make valid points here FC, but after neck surgery, the risk may be too great for this Hall of Fame QB. I think you can also tarnish your reputation by staying too long (see Farve, Brett). Some great players retire before they could have-Jim Brown, Steve Young, Barry Sanders-and they all are in the Hall of Fame. Undoubtedly Farve and Manning will be inducted too, but people have much varied opinions of Farve in 2012 than what his legacy would have been had he retired in 2008 or so.
January 19, 201214 yr You make valid points here FC, but after neck surgery, the risk may be too great for this Hall of Fame QB. I think you can also tarnish your reputation by staying too long (see Farve, Brett). Some great players retire before they could have-Jim Brown, Steve Young, Barry Sanders-and they all are in the Hall of Fame. Undoubtedly Farve and Manning will be inducted too, but people have much varied opinions of Farve in 2012 than what his legacy would have been had he retired in 2008 or so. Once again why should he retire when he could still play a game that he loved, and at a high level still? Yes we as fans got tired of hearing in the media about him retiring then coming back. However who cares what we think, why does it matter? You can tell he loved the game of football, so it would be hard to give it up, and no reason to give it up just because it might protect his legacy. It's like someone who might have a amazing junior year in high school and had stats he probably won't reproduce his senior year because his whole line is gone. Should that person not play next year to protect their legacy? Haha Favre proved he could still play, even after the Packers were wanting him to retire so Rodgers could take over. He went to the Jets and had a good season going with them before he hurt his arm, which for Favre his arm is what makes him. Then the next year he was an overtime away from reaching the Super Bowl, I know he made an interception that hurt them. However if AP doesn't fumble 2 times that game they also win. His last season he played was his worst one, and smartly he gave it up for good after that. However if you love something and can still do it at a good level then no reason to give it up. So I don't see how it should have hurt his legacy by coming back and doing a sport he loved and doing it well still for 2 of the 3 years.
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