November 11, 201114 yr I believe its for the players as well. I personally believe some of the "busts" that came straight out of high school could have benefited from college basketball and "seasoning." Having said that I concede that there are certain guys who don't need to go to college to be successful obviously, but there are more that flop than succeed.
November 11, 201114 yr ^ I definitely agree on your last point. College for a year is better than Europe for a year. Those leagues aren't built for talented 18-year-olds to make a name for themselves. And they can get lost in the shuffle over there if they're not careful. Being a high-profile college recruit will keep you on the radar for that entire year. I can't help but think that it's a waste of these players' time to take English 101 and Finite Mathematics instead of working on their game all the time. I understand the premise... but what's the point of one year of college? It just seems like wasted time. Talented American soccer players shouldn't waste their time in college and talented American baseball players shouldn't either. If they know they are going pro after one year of college their schedule should look like this.... First semester: English 101 Speech 101 Intro to Finanacing Intro to Journalism Basketball Second Semester: English 201 Speech 201 Intro to Coaching Intro to Athletic Training Intermediate Finance :lol:
November 11, 201114 yr ^ Not going to lie... there are so many college freshman that take a first year schedule that looks almost exactly like that but we can't even begin to get into my feeling that college is pretty useless in its current form for most of the people attending. Public speaking... good heavens what a waste.
November 11, 201114 yr ^ Not going to lie... there are so many college freshman that take a first year schedule that looks almost exactly like that but we can't even begin to get into my feeling that college is pretty useless in its current form for most of the people attending. Public speaking... good heavens what a waste. Not on the topic but you thought Public speaking was a waste? I took it back in 1998, and while I didn't enjoy it per say, it was valuable in the sense of getting up in front of a crowd to speak. Granted I went into a profession where that is a daily skill you must possess.
November 11, 201114 yr ^ Not going to lie... there are so many college freshman that take a first year schedule that looks almost exactly like that but we can't even begin to get into my feeling that college is pretty useless in its current form for most of the people attending. Public speaking... good heavens what a waste. I a going to disagree with you on public speaking being a waste. I see many talented college grads that come into the business world with terrible written and verbal skills. Unless you're stuck in a cubicle crunching numbers for your life you cannot avoid business/professional communication. It's sad how many educated folk cannot get up and speak or write in a professional manner. I'd say more communication skills need to be developed.
November 11, 201114 yr If they know they are going pro after one year of college their schedule should look like this.... First semester: English 101 Speech 101 Intro to Finanacing Intro to Journalism Basketball Second Semester: English 201 Speech 201 Intro to Coaching Intro to Athletic Training Intermediate Finance :lol: Probably the easiest class I ever took in college was Entomology 101 or as it was more commonly known at UK: Basketball Biology. I took it the year Rondo, Morris, Bradley, and Crawford were all freshman. Had every one of them in the class and half the football team. Also, while at UL I took a summer communications class where on day one the professor said, "I'm sure some coaches will peek in from time-to-time because for some reason the football players love my teaching style"...knew I had an A at that point.
November 11, 201114 yr I a going to disagree with you on public speaking being a waste. I see many talented college grads that come into the business world with terrible written and verbal skills. Unless you're stuck in a cubicle crunching numbers for your life you cannot avoid business/professional communication. It's sad how many educated folk cannot get up and speak or write in a professional manner. I'd say more communication skills need to be developed. Experience is needed. I don't believe communication skills can be taught in that setting. I got nothing out of it. Learned more in my first 30 seconds of talking in front of a judge than in any of my communications courses in college. It's part of the reason college is so useless. I shouldn't have had to go to law school. If I wanted to practice law, it should have been available as an undergraduate program. Plenty of public speaking experience available through taking practical courses in the study of law if you want them. Similarly, business schools can and should incorporate communications aspects into their curricula. Integration here is the key to learning. Don't learn about public speaking abstractly... learn how to give a sales pitch or how to turn quantitative results of a study into helpful presentation. But a generic communications class about public speaking? Mine were awful.
November 11, 201114 yr ^ Experience is needed. I don't believe communication skills can be taught in that setting. I got nothing out of it. Learned more in my first 30 seconds of talking in front of a judge than in any of my communications courses in college. But that doesn't mean it isn't valuable to others, and is indeed not a waste in my opinion.
November 11, 201114 yr But that doesn't mean it isn't valuable to others, and is indeed not a waste in my opinion.I don't think it should be a requirement like it is. Here is an example of people who don't need it: the software developers I work with didn't get anything out of it.
November 11, 201114 yr I'm pretty sure you don't live in Charlotte, so what's the big deal about what city they reside in? Plus, N'Awlins is an infitely cooler locale to visit than Charlotte. Not that it matters to you, but the "bobcats" aren't the same. When the Hornets were in Charlotte they had a much stronger following than they do now IMO. I'm not from Charlotte but my step-mother is, as is the rest of her family. Some of my earliest memories were my grand father who I admired dearly taking me to the Charlotte Colliseum and always buying me Hornets gear. I still remember going to a game where Zo and Kevin Willis who played for the Hawks at the time got into it and both were ejected. I was a HUGE NBA fan growing up. I can relate to Colts fan from Baltimore on how they felt when their team left town. So, since then I've not cared about the NBA and probably never will.
November 11, 201114 yr Can a mod change my thread title, it was obviously not accurate. :irked: To quote Dave Hester from Storage Wars, "Yeeeeeeppp".
November 11, 201114 yr Author To quote Dave Hester from Storage Wars, "Yeeeeeeppp". Thanks, I love that show but Dave sure gets on my nerves. :lol: I love when the big hillbilly gets mad at him, I forget his name.
November 11, 201114 yr Not that it matters to you, but the "bobcats" aren't the same. When the Hornets were in Charlotte they had a much stronger following than they do now IMO. I'm not from Charlotte but my step-mother is, as is the rest of her family. Some of my earliest memories were my grand father who I admired dearly taking me to the Charlotte Colliseum and always buying me Hornets gear. I still remember going to a game where Zo and Kevin Willis who played for the Hawks at the time got into it and both were ejected. I was a HUGE NBA fan growing up. I can relate to Colts fan from Baltimore on how they felt when their team left town. So, since then I've not cared about the NBA and probably never will. The number of Charlotte Hornets starter jackets I used to see in Louisville made their popularity abundantly clear. The Hornets in the early-to-mid-90s were just different. As a kid who grew up a Minnesota North Stars fan... I understand the frustration. I was so young that eventually I got over it, but I still have yet to actually pick up another team. I just sort of casually follow the league. But if the Vikings -- as some whispers indicate -- actually left Minnesota, I'd have a real tough time ever watching the NFL again.
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