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Pros and Cons of Having an AD That is Also a Coach

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So far I'm not hearing a lot of points in favor.

 

Of the three gentlemen who have been cited by name, are their schools anywhere near as successful in "the other sports" as they are in the sport that they coach?

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So far I'm not hearing a lot of points in favor.

 

Of the three gentlemen who have been cited by name, are their schools anywhere near as successful in "the other sports" as they are in the sport that they coach?

 

I can't site exact titles and years, but I know Highlands has had success in girls track/cross country (some recent state titles), as well as girls soccer. Don't know much about baseball or basketball.

 

Okay, I looked it up, here's some scoop for ya:

 

- The Highlands Girls’ Soccer Team won back-to-back state championships in 2005 and 2006.

 

- Both the boys and girls soccer teams were state runners-up in 2008.

 

- Highlands Girls’ Cross Country Team won back-to-back-to-back state championships in 2002, 2003, and 2004.

 

- Highlands Girls’ Track Team won back-to-back-to-back state championships in 2008, 2009 and 2010.

 

- Highlands Boys’ Varsity Basketball Team has won the regional championship 12 different times. Champion years are: 2001, 1999, 1998, 1997, 1987, 1986, 1983, 1982 and 1979, 1934, 1924 and 1923.

I can't site exact titles and years, but I know Highlands has had success in girls track/cross country (some recent state titles), as well as girls soccer. Don't know much about baseball or basketball.

 

Okay, I looked it up, here's some scoop for ya:

 

- The Highlands Girls’ Soccer Team won back-to-back state championships in 2005 and 2006.

 

- Both the boys and girls soccer teams were state runners-up in 2008.

 

- Highlands Girls’ Cross Country Team won back-to-back-to-back state championships in 2002, 2003, and 2004.

 

- Highlands Girls’ Track Team won back-to-back-to-back state championships in 2008, 2009 and 2010.

 

- Highlands Boys’ Varsity Basketball Team has won the regional championship 12 different times. Champion years are: 2001, 1999, 1998, 1997, 1987, 1986, 1983, 1982 and 1979, 1934, 1924 and 1923.

 

Thanks fo the history lesson but I dont think the current AD had anything to do with the 1923 team. LOL

Principals make all the decisions anyway.

Thanks fo the history lesson but I dont think the current AD had anything to do with the 1923 team. LOL

 

I just cut-n-pasted it and didn't feel like editing it. But I thought about it, 'cause I knew some smart-aleck would point it out! :D

So far I'm not hearing a lot of points in favor.

 

Of the three gentlemen who have been cited by name, are their schools anywhere near as successful in "the other sports" as they are in the sport that they coach?

 

Some just end up making it work. At Danville, boys' and girls' soccer have always been solid programs, as has baseball and track.

 

Bardstown's David Clark does double duty (he does have an assistant AD), and while Bardstown is a traditional powerhouse in FB, they have even more state titles in track, and are also solid in girls' soccer and boys' and girls' basketball.

Since I was the one who brought this up in the other thread, here is some numbers to support my theory at the school I am questioning:

 

McCreary Central Boys basketball last 5 years: 101-48

 

McCreary Central Football last 4.75 years 14-26 and will likely be 14-28 by seasons end.

Since I was the one who brought this up in the other thread, here is some numbers to support my theory at the school I am questioning:

 

McCreary Central Boys basketball last 5 years: 101-48

 

McCreary Central Football last 4.75 years 14-26 and will likely be 14-28 by seasons end.

 

I don't think you can say that's simply because the basketball coach is the AD. There are plenty of schools that have bad football programs who are competitive in other sports (and vice versa) who have an AD that doesn't coach at all.

I don't think it boils down to a won loss record. It's just a matter of attention that the AD pays to the other programs. Coaching a sport takes up a lot of time and hopefully the school should be able to afford a dedicated person for the AD job. Sad part is, most can't.

Bottom line is this, McCreary is suffering from this. Others may not be, but we are....and everyone knows it.

Bottom line is this, McCreary is suffering from this. Others may not be, but weare....and everyone knows it.

 

McCreary is suffering from your coaching. The football would go forward if you would go to beach and live, like you told the county.

Banker needs to clean his inbox out....your detective skills are as bad as your coaching....

McCreary is suffering from your coaching. The football would go forward if you would go to beach and live, like you told the county.

 

You sound like President Obama, " Its George Bushs fault" lol. Blame it on someone else. The proof is out there for everyone to see. Most in Raider land already know what the problem is, and everyone else knows also( see averagejoes post on the McCreary thread). Cats out of the bag Banker, maybe you need to join the occupywallstreet protests, you would be a great voice....

There are no pros to this situation. The biggest con, speaking as an educator, is that the principal and or superientendent or school board will have to step in a fire a lousy or underperforming or reckless coach, and take time away from serious educational matters. I say this because I am a teacher who happens to have a part time job as a coach, and not a coach who has a full-time side hustle as a teacher, like many do. The educational aspect of what I do is paramount to me, and that is who I am, and the school I am an assistant coach at is doing very well. Just figured I'd offer that up.

The AD should never be a head coach. How can be objective in evaluating himself? And since he is the AD, he is a district administrator and administrators aren't in the business of jamming each other up, so that pretty much removes the principal and all assistant principals from stepping in removing an ineffective coach. In fact, I believe that at most public districts, the principal and AD are all on the same level of the school distict chain of command of hierarchy if you will. I maybe wrong, but I know this is the case at my school.

And yes, by nature they are going to favor their sport. It would be human nature. The AD is going to give everyone else the bare minimum, bread and butter, while he eats lobster and shrimp with his team. Proverbially speaking.

Edited by 85BearsFan

Not true. nOT ATHLETIC DECISIONS, principals are emrely kept abreast of athletic endeavors. The AD does his/her job and the principals run the school, although they are on the same level of the food chain in a public district.

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