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16 yr old Atheist Student, School Clash Over Prayer Mural

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What the Mural says.

 

Dear Heavenly Father,

 

Grant us each day the desire to do our best. To grow mentally and morally as well as physically. To be kind and helpful to our classmates and teachers. To be honest with ourselves as well as with others. Help us to be good sports and smile when we lose as well as when we win. Teach us the value of true friendship. Help us always to conduct ourselves so as to bring credit to Cranston High School West.

 

Amen

 

Can they just paint over the bolded and leave the rest?

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I don't care whether it is left up or taken down.

 

But, I do wonder. Why would this bother an atheist?

 

Personally, if I didn't believe in God, I don't think anything related to religion would bother me. I would simply view it as another fairy tale like Lord of the Rings.

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Do you think that teenagers are actually capable of being atheists or do they just say they are because it is different and sounds unique?

This is a cry for attention. Nothing more, nothing less.

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This is one of those things that someday she will look back and regret that she had to make such a big deal over it. That she could not just tolerate the "art" and look the other way. Because once this "art" is taken down, she will have successfully alientated the entire school and community. All becasue she wanted her 15 seconds of fame.

For two reasons I lean towards removing it.

 

1. No form of prayer should be part of the public school system.

2. Any form of distraction from the primary goal of educating , especially if there is a question of its legality, should be removed.

 

1. The prayer has no part in the school system. It just hangs there. According to the individual that wrote the prayer, it hasn't been recited in nearly 50 years. I'm not sure knowing that how you would say it is part of the school system.

 

2. What distracts more from education? This girl striving for attention and making a big deal out of essentially nothing or a banner that has hung at the school for almost 50 years with virtually no recognition?

2. What distracts more from education? This girl striving for attention and making a big deal out of essentially nothing or a banner that has hung at the school for almost 50 years with virtually no recognition?
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Do you think that teenagers are actually capable of being atheists or do they just say they are because it is different and sounds unique?
This question can just as easily be phrased, "do you think teenagers are actually capable of being Christians or are they just following 'the pack'"?

 

Seriously...why is everyone ok with accepting that a teenager is capable of deciding their spiritual future at such a young age if that future is Christianity? But if they choose atheism than the response is decidedly different...

1. The prayer has no part in the school system. It just hangs there. According to the individual that wrote the prayer, it hasn't been recited in nearly 50 years. I'm not sure knowing that how you would say it is part of the school system.

 

2. What distracts more from education? This girl striving for attention and making a big deal out of essentially nothing or a banner that has hung at the school for almost 50 years with virtually no recognition?

 

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Is it too much of a stretch to think that this girl might actually be offended by this? Seems like the easy route is to label it "wanting attention" and dismissing it from there. That way everyone is ok at the end of the day...

How come she waited to the end of her Freshman year? And what class is she right now? I don't believe we know these questions. I wonder if the FCA is in her school?

How come she waited to the end of her Freshman year? And what class is she right now? I don't believe we know these questions. I wonder if the FCA is in her school?
Scared. Didn't want to be ridiculed. Coming out against something that is universally accepted/loved isn't all that easy...

 

Why does it matter?

1. The prayer has no part in the school system. It just hangs there. According to the individual that wrote the prayer, it hasn't been recited in nearly 50 years. I'm not sure knowing that how you would say it is part of the school system.

 

2. What distracts more from education? This girl striving for attention and making a big deal out of essentially nothing or a banner that has hung at the school for almost 50 years with virtually no recognition?

 

So you think a public school should be able to hang a replica of Jesus on the cross in every classroom and since it "just hangs there" it would not be a violation of the Constitution?

 

Remove it. Move on. Educate the children and do not let this easy-to-fix problem turn into a distraction.

So you think a public school should be able to hang a replica of Jesus on the cross in every classroom and since it "just hangs there" it would not be a violation of the Constitution?

 

Remove it. Move on. Educate the children and do not let this easy-to-fix problem turn into a distraction.

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Clyde's extremes remind me how tolerant we are when it comes to beliefs in science stuff like the big bang theory. This paragraph could be studied and benefit the educational process. Have an opinion based on study and research... not pretending things don't exist. And yes Clyde I believe that should go for a lot of things but you'll be able to lay out extremes that wouldn't be age appropriate.

While we're at it, let's forbid students to write the year/date "2011" on assignments/tests/homework. After all, it's 2011 because that's how many years we are removed from the birth of Christ. Seems like this Gregorian calendar is awfully slanted toward Christianity, therefore could be perceived as unconstitutional & should immediately be removed from the school system.

While we're at it, let's forbid students to write the year/date "2011" on assignments/tests/homework. After all, it's 2011 because that's how many years we are removed from the birth of Christ. Seems like this Gregorian calendar is awfully slanted toward Christianity, therefore could be perceived as unconstitutional & should immediately be removed from the school system.

 

It's just a matter of time until someone really pushes this position.

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