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16 yr old Atheist Student, School Clash Over Prayer Mural

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If it is a law, why didnt they remove it 40 yrs ago?

 

I guess a law is only worthwhile if it is enforced. Maybe the enforcement has just now came?:idunno:

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I guess a law is only worthwhile if it is enforced. Maybe the enforcement has just now came?:idunno:

 

Or maybe it wasnt a big deal or an issue till a crybaby 16 yr old jsut wants to bring attention to herself.

Maybe Clyde, but it is an option, so the response from me is acceptable. (really gets my goat when folks on here try to tell me how to speak)

 

It's unacceptable because it is her right (and possibly only public school option) to attend a school that is free from religious expression. You do not have to like the Constitution but you certainly have to abide by it.

In theory, a mural is art. Art is subjective. Therefore, I say that religious in theme or not, it stays.

 

Does that include Maplethorpe art?

In theory, a mural is art. Art is subjective. Therefore, I say that religious in theme or not, it stays.

 

 

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Does that include Maplethorpe art?

 

If you really want to look at it...

 

Imagine she goes to college and there is something she doesn't agree with, she gets married and her In-Laws do/have something in their lives she is against. She gets a job she reallhy loves but there is something in the break room she hates, or she is against homosexuals in the work place and she has to complain. Life isn't easy, but we have to adapt.

 

 

 

Surely, you realize why the above is a terrible argument.

Does that include Maplethorpe art?

 

From my own personal perspective, yes. As I stated, art is subjective.

 

If you're trying to say shoulda Maplethorpe be in a school, I think that's stretching it WAYYYY beyond the limits of believable hypethetical scenarios to debate. :lol:

I really can't see the atheist point of view in this instance... Does a mural really have that much affect on the girl because of her lack of belief in God? If she is forced to pray to something she doesn't believe in, then I can see where there is a problem. However, why do atheists (not all, but some) tend to get their britches in a wad when others are praying? What is it about religion that offends those without it? This is a cry for attention. Nothing more, nothing less.

From my own personal perspective, yes. As I stated, art is subjective.

 

If you're trying to say shoulda Maplethorpe be in a school, I think that's stretching it WAYYYY beyond the limits of believable hypethetical scenarios to debate. :lol:

 

Your premise is that art stays. I would argue that the blanket statement is incorrect.

 

If your argument is that certain art stays because it's a)art and b) acceptable then we get back to the "acceptable" part. Is "prayer" acceptable simply if it's disguised as art? If yes, then we are opening Pandora's Box.

I really can't see the atheist point of view in this instance... Does a mural really have that much affect on the girl because of her lack of belief in God? If she is forced to pray to something she doesn't believe in, then I can see where there is a problem. .

 

Fair point. However, the argument would be that public schools are not to promote any religion. The fact that one may or may not be offended is really immaterial. It's simply a matter of law that is to be debated.

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It's unacceptable because it is her right (and possibly only public school option) to attend a school that is free from religious expression. You do not have to like the Constitution but you certainly have to abide by it.

 

If we abide by the Constitution, why does our President have an Innagural Prayer

What the Mural says.

 

Dear Heavenly Father,

 

Grant us each day the desire to do our best. To grow mentally and morally as well as physically. To be kind and helpful to our classmates and teachers. To be honest with ourselves as well as with others. Help us to be good sports and smile when we lose as well as when we win. Teach us the value of true friendship. Help us always to conduct ourselves so as to bring credit to Cranston High School West.

 

Amen

I can back where you can't say public prayer over an intercom at games or at a graduation ceremony but this is just stupid.

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Wow, what an awful prayer, it sure does try to make you a Christian and make you feel bad for not being one. WAIT, no it doesnt. Again what a crybaby, just go around the mural by another hallway

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