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Obama in 2012

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He will be the Democratic nominee and lose to whomever the Republicans put up against him. His brand of hope and change failed.

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Here's my take: For a Republican to win, he or she would have to win what McCain won (which I think he/she will). But then, he/she would have to steal back Indiana, Florida, Ohio, North Carolina, Virginia & Iowa. Doing this would earn a total of 272 electoral votes (270 needed to win). If the nominee is Romney & he can deliver the home state of Michigan, he could lose one of those states--save Florida--and still get the needed 270 electoral votes.

 

That seems like a tough road to me. The Repubs are assisted by the recent census, which shifted a lot of population their direction when you look at the typical political map.

It doesn't matter who is in the White House. Most of this country's power and ability to get things done is in Congress.

 

And the senate?

It's like a coach. We hold them responsible.

 

Agreed, he may not call of the shots, because that's just too much for one coach to do(footballs a perfect example), but he's looked upon to lead by example and hopefully keep every one on the same page as to how he wants his team/government to work and the goals they're expected to achieve.

He will be the Democratic nominee and lose to whomever the Republicans put up against him. His brand of hope and change failed.

 

I'd be ok with that, but unless something huge happens in the next 12 months then I just don't see it happening.

Here's my take: For a Republican to win, he or she would have to win what McCain won (which I think he/she will). But then, he/she would have to steal back Indiana, Florida, Ohio, North Carolina, Virginia & Iowa. Doing this would earn a total of 272 electoral votes (270 needed to win). If the nominee is Romney & he can deliver the home state of Michigan, he could lose one of those states--save Florida--and still get the needed 270 electoral votes.

 

That seems like a tough road to me. The Repubs are assisted by the recent census, which shifted a lot of population their direction when you look at the typical political map.

 

Just not sure I could see them winning any more than those I bolded but it's still a good ways out so I suppose only time will tell.

And the senate?

 

Congress=House of Representatives and Senate

Congress=House of Representatives and Senate

 

I have a BA in PSC, and agree that it does, but often times the two are seperated as the 2nd or 3rd branches of the government;often times forgetting about the judicial, just making sure that this wasn't another case. Not to mention that when two or more are ran by one party we get nothing done. ......... Oh wait we never get any thing done regardless. My bad :D

I don't see any chance in hell of them putting forth another candidate to run against him. The only way I could see it was if it was a strategy to try to get more people out to support him early on and hope they stick with him throughout the entire campaign. Carter and Bush Seenior are the only 2 POTUS not to be re-elected in the past 50 years.

 

Yes and no on the bolded.

 

1968 LBJ ran for re-election but after the New Hampshire primary where he nearly lost to McCarthy he stepped out of the race. It's very likely he might have been upended in his own party with McCarthy and Kennedy putting up strong resistence.

 

1976 Gerald Ford ran for re-election but lost to Carter.

 

So, IMO, those 2 names can be added to that list.

 

In fact I think if anyone runs vs. Obama in the Dem Primary it will be more like the 1980 scenario when Ted Kennedy pounded Carter in the Primaries and almost attempted a floor fight at the Convention. It decimated the party and made a weak candidate even weaker when he faced Reagan in the General Election.

 

I don't see anyone of the Dems running vs their own. Nothing good ever comes from it.

Yes and no on the bolded.

 

1968 LBJ ran for re-election but after the New Hampshire primary where he nearly lost to McCarthy he stepped out of the race. It's very likely he might have been upended in his own party with McCarthy and Kennedy putting up strong resistence.

 

1976 Gerald Ford ran for re-election but lost to Carter.

 

So, IMO, those 2 names can be added to that list.

 

In fact I think if anyone runs vs. Obama in the Dem Primary it will be more like the 1980 scenario when Ted Kennedy pounded Carter in the Primaries and almost attempted a floor fight at the Convention. It decimated the party and made a weak candidate even weaker when he faced Reagan in the General Election.

 

I don't see anyone of the Dems running vs their own. Nothing good ever comes from it.

 

Kennedy in 68, which one?

Kennedy in 68, which one?
Robert Kennedy
Kennedy in 68, which one?
You have a Bachelors in Political Science and you don't know which Kennedy was running for President in '68 . WOW !http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_F._Kennedy
Robert Kennedy

 

:thumb: IMO, the best one of them all.

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