First of all, to suggest an MLB umpire made the call because he was ready to go home is absurd. These guys are professionals that take their job extremely seriously, integrity being their #1 priority. Second, since when is a glove in front of a baserunners leg an out? No way you can tell he's tagging him there. Not possible.

 

From that pic it looks like the entire back of his glove hit the inner-thigh of the runner. If he tagged him, the edge of his glove knicked his pants. Shows us nothing.

 

MLB are professionals AND they are humans. Humans are flawed.

 

The umpire admitted after the game that he blew the call. That has to be an out.

No way he consciously blew the call to end the game.

 

I understand that, I just think it's comical when people show a pic or clip and say, "See, out!" when there's no way to tell if he was tagged or not. I don't doubt that he could've been tagged.

You guys are focusing too much on the tag. All you have to do is watch Julio Lugo to have your answer

You guys are focusing too much on the tag. All you have to do is watch Julio Lugo to have your answer

 

By all rights he should have been dead at the plate 1,000 times over. It is not uncommon for someone to think they're out and be wrong. I think his reaction was due to how far the ball beat him and knowing he should be out with a proper play, rather than any sort of feeling of getting tagged.

If the catcher misses that tag, Lugo is jumping up and giving the umpire a safe signal that he missed the tag. In the 19th inning, I know I sure would.

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You're out...

 

Again, that picture proves absolutely nothing. That is a HORRIBLE angle if you want to see if he actually made the tag.

 

Did he tag him? I don't know. It was a close call.

I'm just saying, I think he knew before he even got tagged in the first place that he should be out, and reacted accordingly. Nothing about that tag was so definitive that I would even say for certain he felt it. The tip of the glove on his knee is a small thing to be feeling in the midst of a slide and his arms flailing out. He may have even thought he got tagged on the arm when he made contact, though we can conclusively say that didn't happen.

 

At this point, it's a non-issue to me. I think he should've been out, they didn't call it that way unfortunately. If it had happened to the Braves I'm sure I would've been upset but these things balance out.

I'm just saying, I think he knew before he even got tagged in the first place that he should be out, and reacted accordingly. Nothing about that tag was so definitive that I would even say for certain he felt it. The tip of the glove on his knee is a small thing to be feeling in the midst of a slide and his arms flailing out. He may have even thought he got tagged on the arm when he made contact, though we can conclusively say that didn't happen.

 

At this point, it's a non-issue to me. I think he should've been out, they didn't call it that way unfortunately. If it had happened to the Braves I'm sure I would've been upset but these things balance out.

 

 

:thumb: Nothing can be done about it now.

Pittsburgh has lost six of seven since the blown call

Pittsburgh has lost six of seven since the blown call

 

One call should have nothing to do with their next 7 games....

It was only a matter of time for Pittsburgh. When you look at their team, especially their offense, the fact they are even in a race right now is one of the more amazing things I can think of in baseball in recent years.

One call should have nothing to do with their next 7 games....

It's funny you say that because if you go back and look at some of the most egregious calls made in baseball history, there was usually a next game(s) where the shafted team lost.

 

1975 - World Series Game Three - the Ed Armbrister interference or lack of interference call in the 10th inning that cost the Red Sox the game

1983 - The Pine Tar Game. Kansas City was a .500 team that year and dropped seven of their next nine after the Pine Tar Game. Of course, the call was later overturned.

1985 - Don Dekinger's safe call and the Cardinals imploded the next night

1991 - Jeffery Maier's deflected home run. The Yanks won the series 4-1.

1999 - The Chuck Knoblauch phantom tag of Jose Offerman in Game Four of the ALCS. The "tag" killed a Red Sox rally and they dropped the series to the Yanks.

2006 - Bartman's deflected ball and the Cubs imploded that night and the next night

 

I'm not saying any of these teams went on to lose because of these bad calls. But there is a precedent.

 

And different things affect young teams in different ways. Especially teams that have never contended for first place.

It's funny you say that because if you go back and look at some of the most egregious calls made in baseball history, there was usually a next game(s) where the shafted team lost.

 

1975 - World Series Game Three - the Ed Armbrister interference or lack of interference call in the 10th inning that cost the Red Sox the game

1983 - The Pine Tar Game. Kansas City was a .500 team that year and dropped seven of their next nine after the Pine Tar Game. Of course, the call was later overturned.

1985 - Don Dekinger's safe call and the Cardinals imploded the next night

1991 - Jeffery Maier's deflected home run. The Yanks won the series 4-1.

1999 - The Chuck Knoblauch phantom tag of Jose Offerman in Game Four of the ALCS. The "tag" killed a Red Sox rally and they dropped the series to the Yanks.

2006 - Bartman's deflected ball and the Cubs imploded that night and the next night

 

I'm not saying any of these teams went on to lose because of these bad calls. But there is a precedent.

 

And different things affect young teams in different ways. Especially teams that have never contended for first place.

 

Blaming the next 6/7 losses on one bad call is just a poor excuse.

I simply pointed out that the Bucs had lost six of seven since the call.

Blaming the next 6/7 losses on one bad call is just a poor excuse.

There is something to be said for, "taking the wind out of your sails".